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Old 07-28-2015, 12:05 PM
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Tom Brady's 4-game suspension in Deflategate upheld by Goodell

Mike Reiss, ESPN Staff Writer

Patriots quarterback*Tom Brady's four-game suspension for his role in using underinflated footballs during the AFC Championship Game*was upheld by commissioner Roger Goodell on Tuesday.

In making the announcement, Goodell cited new evidence that Brady willfully obstructed the investigation by destroying his phone on or about June 23, the day of the appeals hearing between Brady and investigators.

Tom Brady deliberately destroyed evidence when the league began its investigation of the Patriots quarterback, Roger Goodell said.*AP Photo/Stephan Savoia

Based on Ted Wells' report and the evidence presented at that hearing, Goodell concluded in his decision that Brady was aware of, and took steps to support, the actions of other team employees to deflate game footballs below the levels called for by NFL rules.

Goodell found that Brady's deliberate destruction of potentially relevant evidence went beyond a mere failure to cooperate in the investigation and supported a finding that he had sought to hide evidence of his own participation in the underlying scheme to alter the footballs.

"On or shortly before March 6, the day that Tom Brady met with independent investigator Ted Wells and his colleagues, Brady directed that the cell phone he had used for the prior four months be destroyed. He did so even though he was aware that the investigators had requested access to text messages and other electronic information that had been stored on that phone," the league's statement read. "During the four months that the cell phone was in use, Brady had exchanged nearly 10,000 text messages, none of which can now be retrieved from that device. The destruction of the cell phone was not disclosed until June 18, almost four months after the investigators had first sought electronic information from Brady."

Brady's appeal from that discipline the commissioner first levied in May was heard for more than 10 hours on June 23.

Attorney Jeffrey Kessler, who has had success taking on the NFL in other high-profile cases, led Brady's defense and said at one time that he had "a very compelling case" to change Goodell's decision.

That Goodell served as arbitrator was a point of contention for Brady and the NFL Players Association, which had asked the commissioner to recuse himself because of their belief he could not be impartial and might be called as a witness. But Goodell, citing the collective bargaining agreement, said it was his responsibility to oversee the hearing and protect the integrity of the league.

Wells, whose report was used as the foundation for the NFL suspending Brady and fining the Patriots $1 million and stripping them of a 2016 first-round draft choice and 2017 fourth-round draft choice, was present at the appeal hearing held at the league's New York offices.

The penalties were announced after Wells found that it was "more probable than not" that the Patriots illegally underinflated footballs in the AFC Championship Game against the Indianapolis Colts on Jan. 18. Wells also stated that Brady was "generally aware" of the Patriots illegally underinflating footballs.

Wells' report was a central part of Brady's appeal, with his attorneys arguing that it didn't prove Brady violated rules. In an official letter from NFL Players Association general counsel Tom DePaso, it was stated that the report "grasps at dubious, contradictory and mischaracterized circumstantial evidence" and that it is a "legally inadequate basis upon which to impose unprecedented discipline."

Brady's side also argued that the penalties are "grossly inconsistent" with the NFL's past discipline of similar alleged conduct.

A source told ESPN's Schefter that "Tom Brady's greatest ally was Tom Brady" in the appeal hearing. Sources also told Schefter that Brady came off as genuine, earnest and persuasive, with one calling it an "A-plus performance."

Since the appeal, the NFL Players Association made a settlement offer to the NFL, according to ESPN's Dan Graziano, who reported the offer was met with "silence."


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Roger should add another 4 games for GP..........
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This will cost Roger his job within the next year. Should have fined Tom $50K and called it a day. BTW; Troy Vincent is a POS from the day he was drafted by the dolphins.

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Not surprised they upheld it . . . why would the NFL reverse their own decision ???? . . . usually appeals are made to a different authority than those that made the original decision. Waste of time, but it gets more news cycles.

Off to court we go ???
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Originally Posted by D.M.D. View Post
Goodell cited new evidence that Brady willfully obstructed the investigation by destroying his phone on or about June 23, the day of the appeals hearing between Brady and investigators.

Goodell found that Brady's deliberate destruction of potentially relevant evidence went beyond a mere failure to cooperate in the investigation and supported a finding that he had sought to hide evidence of his own participation in the underlying scheme to alter the footballs.
Superstars from all walks of life often behave smugly, with a sense of entitlement. Brady exhibited such an attitude from day one. Not surprising really. Tom, it's time to quit digging the hole any deeper.
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Originally Posted by Pez Vela View Post
Superstars from all walks of life often behave smugly, with a sense of entitlement. Brady exhibited such an attitude from day one. Not surprising really. Tom, it's time to quit digging the hole any deeper.
Well Done!!
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Destroying key evidence when it's been requested by investigators. Then when asked by investigators to provide this key evidence, just refusal. No mention that it had already been destroyed until anyonths later. How can one not look guilty by doing this? If you have key evidence that will exonerate you, why destroy it unless you know it will sink you.

This has tarnished his legacy. He's no longer a first year HOF ballot selection. Maybe not at all.

He's on levels of the likes of A-rod, Barry Bonds, Mark McGuire, etc. Basically cheaters to try and get ahead.
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He had his cell phone desrtoed the day he was suppose to meet with the league..he cheated.
Thats coming from a Pats fan...bullshit crime..but a crime non the less.

Every team screws with the rules..they are elite and brazen and act above everyone...not a good aproach.
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Originally Posted by 1northernstar View Post
Destroying key evidence when it's been requested by investigators. Then when asked by investigators to provide this key evidence, just refusal. No mention that it had already been destroyed until anyonths later. How can one not look guilty by doing this? If you have key evidence that will exonerate you, why destroy it unless you know it will sink you.

This has tarnished his legacy. He's no longer a first year HOF ballot selection. Maybe not at all.

He's on levels of the likes of A-rod, Barry Bonds, Mark McGuire, etc. Basically cheaters to try and get ahead.

So should Jerry Rice be in the Hall of Fame? How about Joe Montana?
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Originally Posted by Lprizman View Post
He had his cell phone desrtoed the day he was suppose to meet with the league..he cheated.
Thats coming from a Pats fan...bullshit crime..but a crime non the less.

Every team screws with the rules..they are elite and brazen and act above everyone...not a good aproach.
Crime? This is a game and breaking the rules is not a crime.
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Originally Posted by fishingfun View Post
Crime? This is a game and breaking the rules is not a crime.
Samantics...you get the point
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Im surprised at how quiet all side are on this!
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Good, he's guilty and covered it up.
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Originally Posted by Pez Vela View Post
Superstars from all walks of life often behave smugly, with a sense of entitlement. Brady exhibited such an attitude from day one. Not surprising really. Tom, it's time to quit digging the hole any deeper.
Did they not have all the text messages from all the others involved which would include the messages from him so it's really shouldn't matter to look at his phone to see what he sent the others but hate on.

It's amazing how many of you guys put a smug attitude at or worse than domestic violence. You can knock you girl out cold on video and the commish will only give you two games, you can get arrested on domestic violence get a 10 game suspension knocked down to 4. You prove the commish is a buffoon and they have nothing else you get four games. Someone is going to be drag through the mud going to court and I don't see the commish coming out of this the way he wants.
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Roger should add another 4 games for GP..........
Look at it from the beginning, the "Tuck Rule", "Spy Gate" then Vinatieri pulled it out for them, now we've got Deflate Gate. In reality Brady hasn't really done chit in the Playoffs, he got there twice and lost to Little Manning both times
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And everyone of you guys bashing him the team and BB would shit twice to have them and the success for the past 15 years and counting.
The fan in me came out there for an instant..so suk on it
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Originally Posted by fishingfun View Post
Crime? This is a game and breaking the rules is not a crime.
No crime? Then no reason for the courts to hear it.
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Did they not have all the text messages from all the others involved which would include the messages from him so it's really shouldn't matter to look at his phone to see what he sent the others but hate on.

It's amazing how many of you guys put a smug attitude at or worse than domestic violence. You can knock you girl out cold on video and the commish will only give you two games, you can get arrested on domestic violence get a 10 game suspension knocked down to 4. You prove the commish is a buffoon and they have nothing else you get four games. Someone is going to be drag through the mud going to court and I don't see the commish coming out of this the way he wants.
Not sure what kind of a career or job you have, but if you were arrested but not charged with a crime, should your employer have a right to fire you? There's a delineation between what happens on the job and what happens off the job, and your employer's reach can only go so far.
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Look at it from the beginning, the "Tuck Rule", "Spy Gate" then Vinatieri pulled it out for them, now we've got Deflate Gate. In reality Brady hasn't really done chit in the Playoffs, he got there twice and lost to Little Manning both times
I see you're new here, you must be new to football also. Got to the playoffs only twice? Lost to an NFC team in the playoffs? Stick to field hockey, maybe you know more about that.
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Originally Posted by 1northernstar View Post
Not sure what kind of a career or job you have, but if you were arrested but not charged with a crime, should your employer have a right to fire you? There's a delineation between what happens on the job and what happens off the job, and your employer's reach can only go so far.
My career if you get arrested for certain things there goes your career no matter what. You can take classes and try again in one to five years. The league does have an off field policy on the books because these athletes are role models for kids around the world.

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