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Old 12-22-2014, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by rdnkvet View Post
That should be "Since Don left...". Jimmy was no better than the rest. He's still full of hot air. The Phins and Philbin are still struggling with the bad decisions of Parcells/Ireland. They have talent and no depth. It's a problem when Phillip Wheeler is your starter at LB. This team is still building. Fire the coach now and you'll wait even longer to get to playoffs.
Well Ross put this debate to an end. Philbin is the guy. Just have to look towards the Phins being able to draft some more talent and fill some more holes. Hickey did a nice job picking up the pieces from Ireland (what a joke that guy was) and moving forward. His first two picks were just SOLID. Juwaun has been everything and then some you want out of a tackle. Landry is a future perennial 1000 yard guy. A little hazy with some of the small school picks, time will tell on some of them, but Fede looks like a nice depth guy. His undrafted signings are the ones that really stuck out as finding talent.

Hope he is able to find a nice crop of LB's and OG this year. DT would be nice as well to help seal up the middle a bit.
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Old 12-22-2014, 12:21 PM
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Excellent news about Philbin......for the rest of the AFC east
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Old 12-22-2014, 04:51 PM
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Harbaugh would go back to college b/c Michigan is his alma mater, will give him complete control of the program, and college is what he does best
Not going to Happen.
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The Oakland Raiders would be a good fit for Harbaugh! Right across the Bay.
Most likely scenario. He is a rebuilder. He moves in, fixes, and moves on.

Michigan giving you the keys to the kingdom isn't what it was twenty years ago.
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Old 12-22-2014, 07:03 PM
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I guess Ross doesn't want to run the risk of having a competitive team.
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Old 12-23-2014, 10:56 AM
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I guess Ross doesn't want to run the risk of having a competitive team.
Why? 8-8 or 9-7 is competitive, not great but not awful, need to give the Gm another draft and another fa period to add some more depth and lets see what happens. if they cant grow into a contender next year, then find a new coach and gm.

Plus as I said before whos gonna come here? there are no real attractive candidates.
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Old 12-23-2014, 11:03 AM
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For the first time in years the Fins are not REBUILDING!!!! We finally have a good foundation that we can build with. Ireland picked players with a defective Ouija board. Tannehill showed alot of growth towards the end and no doubt that Marino has had a hand in that. This team has some really great talent and with a few more good pics we will be much better towards the end of next season.
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For the first time in years the Fins are not REBUILDING!!!! We finally have a good foundation that we can build with. Ireland picked players with a defective Ouija board. Tannehill showed alot of growth towards the end and no doubt that Marino has had a hand in that. This team has some really great talent and with a few more good pics we will be much better towards the end of next season.
I will agree with the Marino comment. I used to love to watch him and you just saw the fire in his eyes, they might of been down but he always believed he was never out.
Tannehill, especially towards the end of the season, has been showing some real grit and Marino like fire. You can see clearly that part is rubbing off. You see the confidence building and throws being made a little farther downfield.
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Old 12-23-2014, 11:32 AM
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Not sure what happened to the defense. You know that big mouth coach in NY is gonna need a job... sucked as a coach, but that defense was always there. Revenge can be sweet!

.500 teams are hard to figure out. One week they're great, next ... well they suck.

I'm OK with Tannehill but he ain't never gonna be a elite QB. He will be a top 10 guy who will be consistent and might/could mature into a Montana of sorts, with the right players. He's very smart, runs well, is coach-able, but lacks situation awareness (pocket presence) at this time. If the game can go faster, he will do better, but needs a Welker type receiver. Can Landry be that guy?

We might make the play-offs next year if we go 50-50 on close games. I'm still struggling to get over the Greenbay loss and the Detriot loss.

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Old 12-23-2014, 12:51 PM
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Not sure what happened to the defense. You know that big mouth coach in NY is gonna need a job... sucked as a coach, but that defense was always there. Revenge can be sweet!

.500 teams are hard to figure out. One week great they're, next ... well they suck.

I'm OK with Tannehill but he ain't never gonna be a elite QB. He will be a top 10 guy who will be consistent and might/could mature into a Montana of sorts, with the right players. He's very smart, runs well, is coach-able, but lacks situation awareness (pocket presence) at this time. If the game can go faster, he will do better, but needs a Welker type receiver. Can Landry be that guy?

We might make the play-offs next year if we go 50-50 on close games. I'm still struggling to get over the Greenbay loss and the Detriot loss.
Whats wrong with a top ten QB??? You never know how far Tannehill will progress. Look at Steve Youngs early years. He was horrible and turned out very good. Tannehill is still learning the position and has improved every year. I will take a top 10 QB every year to run my team.
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Whats wrong with a top ten QB??? You never know how far Tannehill will progress. Look at Steve Youngs early years. He was horrible and turned out very good. Tannehill is still learning the position and has improved every year. I will take a top 10 QB every year to run my team.
Nothing is wrong with being top 10. You may have missed my opening remark, "I'm OK with that"... and to add, he's probably near that now.

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Old 12-24-2014, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Sudden Strike Fishing View Post
Whats wrong with a top ten QB??? You never know how far Tannehill will progress. Look at Steve Youngs early years. He was horrible and turned out very good. Tannehill is still learning the position and has improved every year. I will take a top 10 QB every year to run my team.
Tannehill has peaked, and if you think he can lead the Dolphins to a Super Bowl, you need to wake up.
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Tannehill has peaked, and if you think he can lead the Dolphins to a Super Bowl, you need to wake up.
Beyond Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees .... Tannehill is in the next grouping, IMO. If I was to look back in the past and compare him to a QB... Phil Simms comes to mind.

Listen... if Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer and the like can win a super bowl, Tannehill has a "chance". Defense and running can still win, of which the Dolphins had and lost, along the way this year.
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Old 12-28-2014, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Jersus View Post
Tannehill has peaked, and if you think he can lead the Dolphins to a Super Bowl, you need to wake up.
Tannehill has not peaked and is on the verge of a 4,000-yard season.
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Old 12-28-2014, 07:51 PM
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Ross is an idiot, that no legit good coach would work for, and that's why he can't fire philbin. Today was a perfect example of why Philbin's not the guy. The dolphins once again shit their pants in the 4th quarter. I'm so sick of watching the same shit year in and out. Screw you dolphins with your gay new logo, celebtard owners and clueless management. I could really care less about you right now. I'll go on record and say they will slip back to 5-11 next year.
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Originally Posted by Stroker Ace View Post
Ross is an idiot, that no legit good coach would work for, and that's why he can't fire philbin. Today was a perfect example of why Philbin's not the guy. The dolphins once again shit their pants in the 4th quarter. I'm so sick of watching the same shit year in and out. Screw you dolphins with your gay new logo, celebtard owners and clueless management. I could really care less about you right now. I'll go on record and say they will slip back to 5-11 next year.
Go get a beer...
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Nothing wrong with Philbin. Offense is capable and ready to make the move to a top ten. Tannehill is the future. Running backs need to stay healthy. O line needs better back up's.

Kevin Coyle has gotta go. Trade Starks, Get something for him. Cut Corland Finnegan. Linbackers are not impact players. Trusnick played better than the starters. Jenkins is a keeper. Misi is smart but gets hurt too often.

Need a big body receiver.... even if it's a tight end who can "go get it". Do it thru the draft... build don't buy.

Move the Dolphins to PBC.
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As long as Joe is there you will settle for 8-8 9-7 7-9. Did you see how the JETS players reacted to Rex? Joe has no FIRE in him (boring).

Question; ask yourself if you can see Joe lifting the Super Bowl trophy anytime in the next 5 years?
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Originally Posted by 2muchcoffeeman View Post
Tannehill has not peaked and is on the verge of a 4,000-yard season.
Tannehill has peaked, and what you saw on the last week, is what Dolphins fans (and the rest of the AFC) has grown accustomed to - mediocrity.

Sure, he may be on the "verge" of a 4K season, but he is not on the verge of making the Dolphins into a winning, contending team.

What you see is what you get with Tannehill and Philibin:

1) Beating New England early in the season is their Super Bowl

2) Final season games with the hope of being 8-8 and T-times already set for Monday.

Do not kid yourself, you do not have a winning combination in Miami.
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Originally Posted by BSpot View Post
As long as Joe is there you will settle for 8-8 9-7 7-9. Did you see how the JETS players reacted to Rex? Joe has no FIRE in him (boring).

Question; ask yourself if you can see Joe lifting the Super Bowl trophy anytime in the next 5 years?
How would you define Bill Belichick's personality?

.500 teams are usually not "teams". They are talented individuals who play together. Coaching takes time and success is not always defined as wins. The media circus last year is now a lesson for development not a handicap. IMO... Miami football never recovered from the sale to Huizenga and the ensuing Don Shula forced retirement/fire-ment Coaching disasters followed because of failed ownership/miss-mangement.


What makes great teams great? Were (are) the "great'' teams great because of consistent long term coaches? or because of individual talent? Was Bob Greise a "great" QB? or did he excel at situational football? What team wins consistently and has the same coach for 14 yrs.? I believe we are on the right path with Joe Philbin... and as a fan I support him.

This was a tough year to watch... just sayin'
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How would you define Bill Belichick's personality?

.500 teams are usually not "teams". They are talented individuals who play together. Coaching takes time and success is not always defined as wins. The media circus last year is now a lesson for development not a handicap. IMO... Miami football never recovered from the sale to Huizenga and the ensuing Don Shula forced retirement/fire-ment Coaching disasters followed because of failed ownership/miss-mangement.


What makes great teams great? Were (are) the "great'' teams great because of consistent long term coaches? or because of individual talent? Was Bob Greise a "great" QB? or did he excel at situational football? What team wins consistently and has the same coach for 14 yrs.? I believe we are on the right path with Joe Philbin... and as a fan I support him.

This was a tough year to watch... just sayin'
I've been saying this for awhile. You cant keep rebuilding a team every other year and expect to see amazing football. Teams need time and consistency. Miami has been "Rebuilding" for 20 years! What has that brought us? We need to build on what we have and we have some great players and of course we have a Sh!tbag like Wallace that needs to grow up or go home. We also needed to get past all the sh!t that Ireland left us with as well
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