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Old 06-25-2019, 05:43 AM
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Wow - they laid Jimbo out:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...edium=referral

Looks like everyone involved under Fisher is blaming him.
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A buddy employed a lady who's son was a starting lineman there in 2016. I met them a few times. The son talked about how Jimbo had totally "checked out". He rarely attended meetings and everyone knew he was going to be leaving the program that last year. They really seemed to hate him after the Jameis mess.

At the time we didn't see much more than the Jameis favortism but everything that kid said is proving true.
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I am sure Jimbo left the place in shambles. Seems to be the M.O. of these guys, especially Urban. But, I went to every home game last year and there was a lot of poor coaching going on. Players dancing on the sideline down two scores late in the game, not knowing the play that was called or their responsibility in the play. Most penalized team in the nation. I get it that it takes a while to get your players in and change the culture but teaching fundamentals and very basic offensive and defensive plays is about the current coach. I would say 50% of the issues were from Jimbo and the other half falls on WT. Season ticket sales and booster donations way down. The administration is blaming the shitty home schedule. They better wake up.
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Half the boosters hated jimbo and half loved him. I was in the first group. Little man issues. He was a train wreck and effed the program. WT needed to do a 180 and it will take another 1-2 years to get it pointed in the right direction. My son lived in Champions Hall with most of the team for 3 years, the stuff we saw going on in there was just unbelievable.

Great players make mediocre coaches look good. That was the '13 NC team make-up. Lost the spark in '14 and it showed up in the playoff game and the slide began.
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"We were Clemson before Clemson," a former assistant to Fisher at FSU says. "We were the team that had caught Alabama and was getting ready to pass them.”


Difference in FSU then and CLEMSON now is the Character of the coaches AND the players. Dabo will NOT recruit a kid like some that FSU had the last few years



Never was a Jimbo fan but I do think if given enough time WT will be fine but who knows how much time he will get

Question for those that know, I have no clue, all I ever heard was Jimbo did not have support of those in power and did not get the facilities he kept asking for to keep up with other schools. How accurate was this ??
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Originally Posted by Ahoy Vay View Post
I am sure Jimbo left the place in shambles. Seems to be the M.O. of these guys, especially Urban. But, I went to every home game last year and there was a lot of poor coaching going on. Players dancing on the sideline down two scores late in the game, not knowing the play that was called or their responsibility in the play. Most penalized team in the nation. I get it that it takes a while to get your players in and change the culture but teaching fundamentals and very basic offensive and defensive plays is about the current coach. I would say 50% of the issues were from Jimbo and the other half falls on WT. Season ticket sales and booster donations way down. The administration is blaming the shitty home schedule. They better wake up.
I went to FSU as did my father before me - so I've been an FSU fan for a long time. FSU has long had a problem with discipline. They recruit kids who think that they're going to do well just by showing up. Until FSU requires their players to show some discipline and class, I won't care if they lose. I would rather watch some midwest team with less talented players who play with respect and discipline than watch (some of) the idiots at FSU who care more about their endzone dance than anything else.

WT needs to instill discipline first, though I'm sure he is under pressure to win.
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I love Willie Taggart. I hope he stays there forever!!!!!
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Originally Posted by tprice View Post
"We were Clemson before Clemson," a former assistant to Fisher at FSU says. "We were the team that had caught Alabama and was getting ready to pass them.”


Difference in FSU then and CLEMSON now is the Character of the coaches AND the players. Dabo will NOT recruit a kid like some that FSU had the last few years



Never was a Jimbo fan but I do think if given enough time WT will be fine but who knows how much time he will get

Question for those that know, I have no clue, all I ever heard was Jimbo did not have support of those in power and did not get the facilities he kept asking for to keep up with other schools. How accurate was this ??
First of all, Jimbo had the typical short man’s disease. I was around him a few times and when he was introduced to people, especially children, he was very indifferent and appeared to act like he did not want to be there. Add to the fact his wife was spreading love all over Tallahassee with a couple fairly we’ll known (locally) guys and his attitude was just crap. The administration was fed up with his crap. Every year he either wanted new facilities, threatened to leave in order to get a raise, or did the same to get his coaches raises. He always bitched about the facilities but having been in them they were damn nice and redone like every 3 years. His last complaint was wanting an athletic building that was only dedicated to football. He was a prima donna that overplayed his winning a national championship hand. He got payed no doubt but I don’t think he will ever find happiness. I appreciate him bringing a NC to the school. He got the program back on track after Bowden but then damaged it again. Don’t think WT is the coach to bring them back. Don’t get the feeling he is thinking big enough. He recruits a lot of 2-3 stars like he is still at USF. I think it will be a challenging 2-3 years.
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We'll see how he fairs at Texas a&m. I wouldn't look for them to put of with much in the way of shenanigans.
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Originally Posted by raystein View Post
We'll see how he fairs at Texas a&m. I wouldn't look for them to put of with much in the way of shenanigans.
All schools will turn a blind eye. Growing up in Gainesville, I heard Gator fans bashing all other schools with Criminole, Fulmer Bowl (competition for most arrests), and ThugU jokes. I never thought my home town would tolerate it either. Then Ron Zook came along and UF led the SEC in arrests. That was tolerated until the winning stopped. Then Meyer came and had over 30 arrests in a very short coaching period (2 players would go on to be tried for murder), no one cared.
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Originally Posted by raystein View Post
We'll see how he fairs at Texas a&m. I wouldn't look for them to put of with much in the way of shenanigans.

IDK about that, they are in the state of TEXAS where MONEY fixes all football programs 😂
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I called it when it happened. Jimbo sold his soul to the devil when he gave Winston free reign to do what he wanted. Winston was and is a cancer. And jimbo didn't care as long as he won. That's great short term, but it's also the recipe to destroy an institution.

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happier though. I hope they sign Taggert to a 10 year deal

GO CANES.
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Canes doing what ?
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Originally Posted by jj1987 View Post
All schools will turn a blind eye. Growing up in Gainesville, I heard Gator fans bashing all other schools with Criminole, Fulmer Bowl (competition for most arrests), and ThugU jokes. I never thought my home town would tolerate it either. Then Ron Zook came along and UF led the SEC in arrests. That was tolerated until the winning stopped. Then Meyer came and had over 30 arrests in a very short coaching period (2 players would go on to be tried for murder), no one cared.
The adults are talking here. Good time for you to just listen.
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Originally Posted by cajflynn View Post
The adults are talking here. Good time for you to just listen.
Funny how you support criminals.
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Originally Posted by jj1987 View Post
Funny how you support criminals.
Beats supporting UCF!
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Originally Posted by cajflynn View Post
The adults are talking here. Good time for you to just listen.
What was wrong with what he said?
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Originally Posted by rickpcfl View Post
What was wrong with what he said?
I don’t know any UF fan that condoned murder. I also don’t subscribe to any narrative that any school is morally superior to another.
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Originally Posted by cajflynn View Post


I don’t know any UF fan that condoned murder. I also don’t subscribe to any narrative that any school is morally superior to another.
I guess I read it differently. I took it as him saying that he never thought the school he supported would be so uninterested by the actions of some of the player, but that he witnessed a school that showed that they weren't morally superior after acting as if they were. I agree that most people wouldn't condone murder, but it does seem like some look the other way for lesser crimes.
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Originally Posted by rickpcfl View Post
I guess I read it differently. I took it as him saying that he never thought the school he supported would be so uninterested by the actions of some of the player, but that he witnessed a school that showed that they weren't morally superior after acting as if they were. I agree that most people wouldn't condone murder, but it does seem like some look the other way for lesser crimes.
You are right. Cajflynn just busting some balls. JJ can take it. I think it boils down to each coach’s moral compass. Sometimes the best athletes have never been taught right from wrong or consequences for their actions. Coaches that desire fame, wealth, and power often overlook these things to achieve heir goal. Sometimes it is just bad due diligence on someone’s character. What did Jimbo get for overlooking the Stage 4 Winston Cancer? A NC, fame, fortune, power. Fully guaranteed 75million contract with many many other perks. He is getting plenty of attention in Texas. He has no buyout clause and can leave whenever he gets in a bind with no financial liability for his next employer. FSU was his stepping stone. He was not mature enough to handle his first “real job”. He did share his Candi while there however...
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