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Old 04-01-2019, 05:58 AM
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Default For the life of me I cannot catch Tuna!

I have been fishing out off Oregon inlet on my current boat for 11 years and I'm gonna say I've caught 5 total and they were little footballs and it was always from jigging. I'm reaching a breaking point! Saturday I went fishing and caught nothing I'm pretty sure every boat out there caught there limit. Sounded pretty good over the radio, also my co-worker was right beside me the entire day and caught his limit in no time. We discussed what he was catching them on and I was already using the same baits. My brother mated on a boat out of VA beach for 5 years, he was with me and was shaking his head he doesn't know what the problem is either.

I have read till my eyes bleed, I have spent so much money I cant keep up anymore, I have changed from mono to flouro I have tried smaller swivels I tried no swivels at all. My ballyhoo swim perfect.

Here's the big question is it actually possible that tuna do not like something about my boat? I never used to believe in shit like that but its all I can think anymore. My next resort is putting bottom paint on my boat.

Has anyone ever been on a boat that just will not catch Tuna fish?

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Old 04-01-2019, 06:03 AM
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You said you’re using the same baits but are you rigging them the same way? Very, very subtle changes to your baits can make all the difference in the world.
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Old 04-01-2019, 06:07 AM
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Yes.
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Old 04-01-2019, 06:09 AM
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I have taken my lures on friends boats and caught tuna on them, hell I had a purple and black Islander on wire that use for wahoo burn Tuna up one day it was the hot lure that day. How can they hit my wire rig on someone else's boat but wont hit shit in my boat even on flouro?
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That's frustrating for sure. I've had days like that, but not years. Try dragging some cedar plugs and see what happens. There are some boats that can flat have them doing flips off the back and others they avoid like the plague. Sometimes changing the pitch of the prop makes a difference. Might be harmonics... I've also cut off my sounder and then they finally came up. Maybe they're hearing the click of the transducer or maybe it was just time for them to eat I don't know.

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Old 04-01-2019, 06:31 AM
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That's frustrating for sure. I've had days like that. Try dragging some cedar plugs and see what happens. There are some boats that can flat have them doing flips off the back and others they avoid like the plague. Sometimes changing the pitch of the prop makes a difference. Might be harmonics... I've also cut off my sounder and then they finally came up. Maybe they're hearing the click of the transducer or maybe it was just time for them to eat I don't know.
I'm glad you chimed in, did you fish Saturday? Its not days like that for me its everyday. Tuna were biting pretty good Saturday between the 630 and the point I fished that temp break all day and nothing. I'm gonna try a prop next. What is funny is sometimes I do cut my electronics off sometimes cause the pos cant see bottom that deep any way and sometimes will start flashing and become useless. It actually stayed working Saturday though. Also my motor is a small block two stroke which has a very high pitch and I have thought about all the little stupid things like that but I also think about how at one point in time that's all anybody had on there boat and they caught fish.

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Has anyone ever been on a boat that just will not catch fish?
Nope. Sorry.
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I did an outboard swap and my HST for wahoo fell off the charts. Drove me crazy for months before I realized the old outboard had a hydrofoil. Added a hydrofoil to the new outboard and fishing went right back to where it had been.

Short answer, yes the boat can make a difference.
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I would sell the boat if my wife would let me. But after spending 4 years completely redoing this boat from the stringers up she’s not having it.
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I'm glad you chimed in, did you fish Saturday? Its not days like that for me its everyday. Tuna were biting pretty good Saturday between the 630 and the point I fished that temp break all day and nothing. I'm gonna try a prop next. What is funny is sometimes I do cut my electronics off sometimes cause the pos cant see bottom that deep any way and sometimes will start flashing and become useless. It actually stayed working Saturday though. Also my motor is a small block two stroke which has a very high pitch and I have thought about all the little stupid things like that but I also think about how at one point in time that's all anybody had on there boat and they caught fish.
I didn't have a sponsor Saturday so I didn't go. I saw that it was good fishing for many.
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I would sell the boat if my wife would let me. But after spending 4 years completely redoing this boat from the stringers up she’s not having it.
Sounds like engine or prop noise. I see you have caught some jigging. That was probably at idle with an occasional bump in gear. It may be that at trolling speed the prop is doing something they don't like. Maybe a ported prop or a 4 blade. I would try to borrow a prop of different configuration. A ported prop will let some of the exhaust out the sides at trolling speed instead of all of it going over the hub.

I had a cutlass bearing get a squeal at trolling speed and we couldn't get near BFT in the keys one summer. Even the Mahi were staying away from the short flat lines.
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I know my prop has a slight vibration, the thrust washer is slightly smaller than the prop hub. When I spin it can see it slightly out of round. I called Solas and it’s the right thrust washer. I know they are considered junk props so I guess it’s time for a new one.
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Did you have boats right beside you hooking up? What’s your spread? Are your baits to far out? Are you pulling a planner?
Tunas can make you crazy if you let em. Some days not matter what you do they just won’t bite your baits, keep goin you will get em.
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Originally Posted by cummins28 View Post
I know my prop has a slight vibration, the thrust washer is slightly smaller than the prop hub. When I spin it can see it slightly out of round. I called Solas and it’s the right thrust washer. I know they are considered junk props so I guess it’s time for a new one.
I bet that's it. Try running your baits wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy back.
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Did you have boats right beside you hooking up? What’s your spread? Are your baits to far out? Are you pulling a planner?
Tunas can make you crazy if you let em. Some days not matter what you do they just won’t bite your baits, keep goin you will get em.
Yes right beside me, the other boat that I was out there with we both stopped about a mile north of the fleet And we were marking fish and he was catching fish and I was literally trolling right beside him running over the same spots pull in the same lures. I had out a big green bird in the shotgun with a green machine behind the rest were Sea witches and Islanders. We trolled a planer with a islander on it for a little while and pulled it back up no luck also had a green spreader bar out with a green machine behind it. Also ran a naked Hoo for awhile.

He he caught fish on the naked the spreader bar with green machine behind it and on sea witches.
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Yes right beside me, the other boat that I was out there with we both stopped about a mile north of the fleet And we were marking fish and he was catching fish and I was literally trolling right beside him running over the same spots pull in the same lures. I had out a big green bird in the shotgun with a green machine behind the rest were Sea witches and Islanders. We trolled a planer with a islander on it for a little while and pulled it back up no luck also had a green spreader bar out with a green machine behind it. Also ran a naked Hoo for awhile.

He he caught fish on the naked the spreader bar with green machine behind it and on sea witches.
in a situation like you had Saturday or fishing school tuna at Oi, you will be fishing for multiples.
Forget about the planner it will due more harm to your spread than help. Tuna will very rarely bite in front of the planner, meaning if your planner is in short rigger area tuna will not bite your flat lines. Islanders can also affect your spread. Limit to one islander if your only pulling 6 or 8 lines. Some days tunas will pick out a big bait but most of the time they won’t. Birds and green machines are normally a wasted spot at Oi although green machines behind bars work well. Next time you go and have similar fishing conditions try and get as many ballyhoo in your spread as possible and keep em close. Leave all the dumb stuff at home. Keep going you will get em
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Check your Zincs make sure they are all new on the boat & on the engines
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check your zincs make sure they are all new on the boat & on the engines
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in a situation like you had Saturday or fishing school tuna at Oi, you will be fishing for multiples.
Forget about the planner it will due more harm to your spread than help. Tuna will very rarely bite in front of the planner, meaning if your planner is in short rigger area tuna will not bite your flat lines. Islanders can also affect your spread. Limit to one islander if your only pulling 6 or 8 lines. Some days tunas will pick out a big bait but most of the time they won’t. Birds and green machines are normally a wasted spot at Oi although green machines behind bars work well. Next time you go and have similar fishing conditions try and get as many ballyhoo in your spread as possible and keep em close. Leave all the dumb stuff at home. Keep going you will get em
And don't be afraid to change up distances from the boat. Try closer, try farther back. Dump them wayyyyyyy back if you need to. Half a spool back.
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in a situation like you had Saturday or fishing school tuna at Oi, you will be fishing for multiples.
Forget about the planner it will due more harm to your spread than help. Tuna will very rarely bite in front of the planner, meaning if your planner is in short rigger area tuna will not bite your flat lines. Islanders can also affect your spread. Limit to one islander if your only pulling 6 or 8 lines. Some days tunas will pick out a big bait but most of the time they won’t. Birds and green machines are normally a wasted spot at Oi although green machines behind bars work well. Next time you go and have similar fishing conditions try and get as many ballyhoo in your spread as possible and keep em close. Leave all the dumb stuff at home. Keep going you will get em
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