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Old 03-12-2019, 10:58 AM
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Hi guys , looking for advice on what size spinning reels and what they should be loaded with for fishing the punta gorda canals and Charlotte harbor, area also what brand and model reels do you guys use, I know shimano run much smaller than say a Daiwa , so any recommendation would be appreciated, mostly dock hopping from boat for snook, drum, reds, juvenile tarpon, sheepshead, etc, thanks in advance
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Old 03-12-2019, 11:08 AM
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I'm happiest with my quantum stuff at the moment. So a inshore smoke 40/50 due to the light weight and the drag she puts out. Another favorite is the Stradic Ci4, though in the same class they don't seem to have the drag capability, every bit as smooth though.
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I'd recommend a Penn Slammer 3 4500 for those (have landed all of those fish in that area with one) or if you want less expensive, Daiwa BG 4000 or 4500. 20-30# braid.
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All depends on your budget. The Daiwa BG 4500, Stradic 5000, Smoke 40, Penn Battle 40 will all get the job done at different price ranges. Any 4 -5000 series reel will work for all those species. If you are targeting bigger snook under docks than you are bringing a knife to a gun fight. You will need a 6-8000 series reel with a meat stick and bury the drag with 60lb braid and 60lb Fluorocarbon. Now you have a chance. I can’t tell you how many times I have had a big snook take drag like it was nothing on a buried drag on a 4000 reel and you will most likely lose that battle fishing around structure.
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Stop in Fishin Franks in Charlotte Harbor and support your local tackle shop. I am partial to my Shimano Stradics also mentioned above, 3000 series. 2 years ago was talked into a Penn Conquest II 3000 series against my better judgement, I have been pleasantly surprised as it seems to be holding up well after 2 years. If you go to Franks do not allow them to put that Spider Wire garbage on your reel, the stuff wind knots up like crazy!! I'd load the reel up with 20# Finns or Suffix braided line.
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All depends on your budget. The Daiwa BG 4500, Stradic 5000, Smoke 40, Penn Battle 40 will all get the job done at different price ranges. Any 4 -5000 series reel will work for all those species. If you are targeting bigger snook under docks than you are bringing a knife to a gun fight. You will need a 6-8000 series reel with a meat stick and bury the drag with 60lb braid and 60lb Fluorocarbon. Now you have a chance. I canít tell you how many times I have had a big snook take drag like it was nothing on a buried drag on a 4000 reel and you will most likely lose that battle fishing around structure.
This depends on the reel. There are 4k class reels with 30# and there are 4k class reels with 15#. Major difference. The heavier drags 4k's are fine.
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thanks so much guys all great advice and exactly what I was looking for to know, what do you guys think of Saltist in the 3 or 4000 size? Next question what rod without breaking the bank would you pair these reels on and what line class?
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thanks so much guys all great advice and exactly what I was looking for to know, what do you guys think of Saltist in the 3 or 4000 size? Next question what rod without breaking the bank would you pair these reels on and what line class?
I have a Saltist 4k, and regret ever buying it. Line roller issues out of the box, and similar drag/weight issues to the BG but at a stradic price point. My wife runs a BG3500 I got her and it's been a good reel. The drag is down and weight goes up compared to similar class reels from Penn/Quantum/Shimano/etc, but it's a lower price point and more acceptable. Both the Quantum Smoke 40/50 and the Stradic Ci4+ 4000xg have drag in the 24lb range and after going against a shark with my smoke, I'll attest to it. The stradic has the edge in weight by about an ounce, but is about $40 more. The weight it really what makes the difference.

As for rods, you have a mind boggling assortment of choices. St. Croix builds great rods in the 8-15lb class, but so do a bunch of others. Walk up and down the charter dock and you'll get a different answer from each captain. Figure you want 1/2oz lure weight. And 6'6" maybe 7'

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I have a Saltist 4k, and regret ever buying it. Line roller issues out of the box, and similar drag/weight issues to the BG but at a stradic price point. My wife runs a BG3500 I got her and it's been a good reel, but people are hesitant to service them including Rick on this forum. As with the Saltist, the drag is down and weight goes up compared to similar class reels from Penn/Quantum/Shimano/etc, but it's a lower price point and more acceptable. Both the Quantum Smoke 40/50 and the Stradic Ci4+ 4000xg have drag in the 24lb range and after going against a shark with my smoke, I'll attest to it. The stradic has the edge in weight by about an ounce, but is about $40 more. The weight it really what makes the difference.

As for rods, you have a mind boggling assortment of choices. St. Croix builds great rods in the 8-15lb class, but so do a bunch of others. Walk up and down the charter dock and you'll get a different answer from each captain. Figure you want 1/2oz lure weight. And 6'6" maybe 7'
great info right there, what is the difference between the regular stradic and cl4? I watched a video and that gentleman said it was not worth the 40 buck difference, but like we all know everyone has there own opinion
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great info right there, what is the difference between the regular stradic and cl4? I watched a video and that gentleman said it was not worth the 40 buck difference, but like we all know everyone has there own opinion
As best I can tell, weight is the primary difference.
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I have a Saltist 4k, and regret ever buying it. Line roller issues out of the box, and similar drag/weight issues to the BG but at a stradic price point. My wife runs a BG3500 I got her and it's been a good reel, but people are hesitant to service them including Rick on this forum. As with the Saltist, the drag is down and weight goes up compared to similar class reels from Penn/Quantum/Shimano/etc, but it's a lower price point and more acceptable. Both the Quantum Smoke 40/50 and the Stradic Ci4+ 4000xg have drag in the 24lb range and after going against a shark with my smoke, I'll attest to it. The stradic has the edge in weight by about an ounce, but is about $40 more. The weight it really what makes the difference.

As for rods, you have a mind boggling assortment of choices. St. Croix builds great rods in the 8-15lb class, but so do a bunch of others. Walk up and down the charter dock and you'll get a different answer from each captain. Figure you want 1/2oz lure weight. And 6'6" maybe 7'
People are hesitant to service BG's? I didn't hear this...do you know why? I mean they are 100 bucks, a reel service plus a part is gonna be 50 bucks so you can nearly just buy another.
BG is widely accepted as the best reel for the money right now and is one of the most popular reels of the last 40 years.
Not sure if the Rick you mention is Rick from "Ricks Reel Service" here in SoFLo, that does a large portion of the reel maintenance in this part of the country...but he has tons and tons of BG's in his shop getting fixed.
I was there, physically in the shop, this week.
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People are hesitant to service BG's? I didn't hear this...do you know why? I mean they are 100 bucks, a reel service plus a part is gonna be 50 bucks so you can nearly just buy another.
BG is widely accepted as the best reel for the money right now and is one of the most popular reels of the last 40 years.
Not sure if the Rick you mention is Rick from "Ricks Reel Service" here in SoFLo, that does a large portion of the reel maintenance in this part of the country...but he has tons and tons of BG's in his shop getting fixed.
I was there, physically in the shop, this week.
stradic may be the way to go, when I get down there in April to look for property Iíll stop by franks and pick his brain and pick up a few things, thanks again all you guys for the great advice
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Originally Posted by DarcizzleOffshore View Post
People are hesitant to service BG's? I didn't hear this...do you know why? I mean they are 100 bucks, a reel service plus a part is gonna be 50 bucks so you can nearly just buy another.
BG is widely accepted as the best reel for the money right now and is one of the most popular reels of the last 40 years.
Not sure if the Rick you mention is Rick from "Ricks Reel Service" here in SoFLo, that does a large portion of the reel maintenance in this part of the country...but he has tons and tons of BG's in his shop getting fixed.
I was there, physically in the shop, this week.
Well that's good news, and maybe I misunderstood him when we discussed my Saltist. He seemed to not want to work on it. And let me clarify, that's not a slight to Rick, in my eyes, he's the best there is. It's more "why did I buy this POS" lol. And to my post above, the one modern BG we have, has been a solid reel, knowing Rick can and will care for them, just raises its value proposition.
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I have a few of the BG reels up here on Long Island and so far they have been solid as worked flawlessly, so I may put a couple of more of them in my arsenal when I move south, thanks Darcy for letting us know they can be serviced.
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2nd on Fishin Franks. They are glad to show you something in several price ranges, explain the differences. Then match it up with a rod. Buy it there, real good bunch, stand behind sales
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Stradic 4000, and a teramar rod 7’2-7’8”. Your choice, spool the reel with 20-30lb power pro. You will have a great setup for years to come.
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2nd on Fishin Franks. They are glad to show you something in several price ranges, explain the differences. Then match it up with a rod. Buy it there, real good bunch, stand behind sales
thanks guys I will surely pay them a visit when I get down there.
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Look at Star rods, great warranty and reasonable.
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Look at Star rods, great warranty and reasonable.
i heard the same thing, Iím gonna have to check them out.
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