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Old 03-08-2019, 09:36 AM
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offshore black hole rods, trolling, spiral wrap or regular, looking for pro and cons, spiral just looks weird to me, anybody using them thank you
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Old 03-08-2019, 10:09 AM
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I use them all the time. All of my conventional rods are now acid wrapped (spiral wrapped), both jigging and trolling
Several reason why
1. The blank follows it "natural curve" of the rod
2. acid wrapped either goes left or right, it should be the opposite side of what you reeling hand is. That way when you reel in, your natural motion of pushing down is somewhat balanced with the spiral to the other side.
3. When jigging the rod tip is less likely to foul over the tip top

I hope that all makes sense, it is easier to show someone when you have one in your hand
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Old 03-08-2019, 10:44 AM
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Having used both I can give you some personal observations...

Traditional roller guide trolling rods.
Pros:
- If the rollers are in good shape there is marginally less line friction during a fight
- There are a lot more of them around so you can get a lot of rod for your money
Cons:
- When fighting stand up under high drag pressure the side torque created by the vertical guides is noticeable
- I don't love maintaining roller guide, and if you don't maintain them they become even worse than standard guides over time

Spiral wrapped trolling rods.
Pros:
- These rods excel in high drag stand up applications, no side torque
- Simple no maintenance (rinse of) rods
- Tend to be lighter because of the lack of rollers
Cons:
- Tend to be custom rods so are less available and more expensive
- Using the rail when fighting a fish can be problematic (or not an option) because the line transitions to the bottom of the rod pretty quickly
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Old 03-08-2019, 12:29 PM
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WOW THANK YOU FELLAS , i have a custom set of spiral wrap rods, i bought of a friend and i was considering getting them reworked to non spiral, looks like i might have been making a mistake, ill give them a few boat rides and see if i feel the love thanks again for detailed info !!!
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Old 03-11-2019, 07:46 AM
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All of my Blackhole rods are spiral wrapped even my giant rods...only negative Ive seen is you will have to use a shorter leader or no swivel to be able to get your leader to where you can get at your fish....I only fish standup so I cant speak for rail rodding it
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Old 03-11-2019, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by bowguide View Post
All of my Blackhole rods are spiral wrapped even my giant rods...only negative Ive seen is you will have to use a shorter leader or no swivel to be able to get your leader to where you can get at your fish....I only fish standup so I cant speak for rail rodding it
not necessarily true, the smallest spro heavy swivel with small aluminum crimps will still make it through the guides pretty smoothly.
My wire line bass rods have been set up this way for 30+ years without issues, and I have a few spiral standup rods with Fuji SiN guides that I use with long wind ons with the same swivel and crimp setup I mentioned above in 80lb and it’s no problem.
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not necessarily true, the smallest spro heavy swivel with small aluminum crimps will still make it through the guides pretty smoothly.
My wire line bass rods have been set up this way for 30+ years without issues, and I have a few spiral standup rods with Fuji SiN guides that I use with long wind ons with the same swivel and crimp setup I mentioned above in 80lb and it’s no problem.
understood but Im talking about Giant tuna fishing....He said for offshore so wasn't sure what class fish he was after....
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im thinking yellowfin, bluefin, mahi , not fishing for true giants like north Carolina , but im not opposed too one bitting my bally in new jersey, but could see some bigeye action
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Old 03-11-2019, 01:36 PM
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If you buy a rod from a builder who can spline them correctly the advantages are simply non-existent. Plus you have the line on the bottom of the rod where it could touch the rail or anything else and part.
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Old 03-11-2019, 02:03 PM
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line cant touch the boat the first guide is normal, then they start to turn slowly, they arent like a spinner till 3rd eye
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Old 03-11-2019, 03:57 PM
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once you fish a spiral rod you will never go back
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Old 03-11-2019, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by hamma job View Post
If you buy a rod from a builder who can spline them correctly the advantages are simply non-existent. Plus you have the line on the bottom of the rod where it could touch the rail or anything else and part.
spline or find the spine? Finding the so called "spine" of the rod and its effects on rods performance are debatable. What happens when a rod blank has two "spines" on it....which some do?

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Old 03-13-2019, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by hamma job View Post
Plus you have the line on the bottom of the rod where it could touch the rail or anything else and part.
This is a real potential concern for folks that are not accustomed to stand up fishing because they may not be maintaining enough control to avoid letting parts of the rod hit the rail that would risk the integrity of the line.

The rail on my boat is pretty low and is not useful as a surface to brace the rod on. Even with rookies it's not much of a risk unless the angler totally loses control, and we always spot inexperienced stand up anglers to avoid that.

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