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What type of grouper is this?

Old 02-28-2019, 04:53 AM
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Is it a Goliath?? Caught in Panama.

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The politically correct Goliath Grouper, formerly known as a Jew Fish.
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Old 02-28-2019, 05:11 AM
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So where do they live geographically? I posted and I'm asking because some had told me that the groupers (1970) I saw in eleuthera couldn't be a jewfish....that they didn't reside there. But they do in Panama??
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So where do they live geographically? I posted and I'm asking because some had told me that the groupers (1970) I saw in eleuthera couldn't be a jewfish....that they didn't reside there. But they do in Panama??
Goliaths naturally inhabit all of the Bahamas, so you very well could have seen one there. Ive never dove the Eleuthera area, but goliaths are fairly rare in many parts of the Bahamas and Caribbean because they were never protected as they have been in the US, so that may have been what people meant in saying they weren't there.

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Yes they have Goliath Jewfish. I actually watched a show a few years back where they were bringing them in from other places to repopulate a "No fish" marine sanctuary in Costa Rica where they had been nearly wiped out due to over harvest. Kind of like in Florida.
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They are only goliaths here, the rest of the world knows it’s just a fish name and they’re still jewfish. By the way when are they going to change the name of Jewfish Creek to goliath grouper creek?

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So where do they live geographically? I posted and I'm asking because some had told me that the groupers (1970) I saw in eleuthera couldn't be a jewfish....that they didn't reside there. But they do in Panama??
https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/di...helus-itajara/

This shows them everywhere in the GOM and Caribbean, also on the Pacific side and west Africa too. I didn't know they were so widespread.
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https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/di...helus-itajara/

This shows them everywhere in the GOM and Caribbean, also on the Pacific side and west Africa too. I didn't know they were so widespread.
These maps can be misleading in regards to endangered species because they typically show the natural or maximum range, not necessarily the current range. I dont have the data to back this up, but in talks with other fisheries managers Ive heard that goliath grouper are pretty rare in the African and Pacific parts of their range as well as some localities throughout the Caribbean. This observation is used to justify continued protection of them in the southeastern US because the theory is that these large spawing populations are helping those other areas to recover by being a source of eggs that get carried all over. My problem with this is that they arent actually recovering in those areas since they arent protected. We are simply providing grouper for them to harvest without allowing the population to recover in those areas.
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Beautiful fish! My father would take trips to Dry Tortugas in the 1970's and 80's to catch these fish. I have never landed one but I bet it's a lot of fun. Are they edible or do most people catch & release?
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I know it as a jewfish. Sorta like finding hotsy totsy road in mandeville la now. The name offended some transplants with money so city government changed the name of the street.
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Don't look at any charts of the waters near the Thimble islands off Branford unless you really want to be offended.
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WRONG! Look closer! That’s a scup porgey
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Originally Posted by Outboard Fish View Post
Beautiful fish! My father would take trips to Dry Tortugas in the 1970's and 80's to catch these fish. I have never landed one but I bet it's a lot of fun. Are they edible or do most people catch & release?
They are catch and release only, federally protected species.
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Beautiful fish! My father would take trips to Dry Tortugas in the 1970's and 80's to catch these fish. I have never landed one but I bet it's a lot of fun. Are they edible or do most people catch & release?
Yes, Jewfish are edible, hence the over-fishing that has caused their population to decline(which is another topic for debate) resulting in them being protected in the U.S. Not necessarily protected in other parts of their range outside of the U.S.

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