Go Back  The Hull Truth - Boating and Fishing Forum > BOATING FORUMS > SportFishing and Charters Forum
Reload this Page >

People asking for Rod advice, i dont get it, educate me.

Notices
Like Tree108Likes

People asking for Rod advice, i dont get it, educate me.

Old 02-01-2019, 02:41 AM
  #121  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Boca Grande,FL
Posts: 1,631
Default

Please tell me that this thread is not somehow suggesting that fishing from a $200k bay boat with a $19 rod you scored from Wally World is in any way appropriate.
haneyrm is offline  
Old 02-01-2019, 03:39 AM
  #122  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 345
Default

You really think all that is involved to offshore haha. Rigging ballyhoo..Come on down to Louisiana with your little snoopy poles and just troll ballyhoo and see how good you do. What a stupid post/thread
arczr2 is offline  
Old 02-01-2019, 06:57 AM
  #123  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 3,005
Default

Originally Posted by bigfish55 View Post
Dude, what in the heck man. I have put up pictures of me catching MANY TYPES OF FISH. And then i explained that when i started the thread i was talking about inshore type of equipment. I even said that i did a bad job of naming the thread. I have been talking about flounder and inshore species from the start. It is actually pretty stupid that someone would come into the thread saying something genius like "i'd like to see you catch one of these here bluefin tuna on your 29.00 dollar rod! Or why dont you drop 12 ounces of lead to the bottom of 200 foot and catch a goliath grouper with your 29.00 dollar rod" How freaking stupid are these responses over and over again? And then i'm the bad guy for having to keep repeating "I AM TALKING ABOUT INSHORE FISH AND TACKLE"

I am interested in many species and have caught big fish in just about every flavor that Florida has to offer, but I am talking about Flounder, trout, and redfish, maybe a largemouth bass and striper also. We call this INSHORE. Bless poor lock n loads heart And his little "special" buddy Tor Fed too.

I think the moral of the story is there are many people commenting here that do not have good READING COMPREHENSION !!
Great. Now Tunnles is wearing off on people.
I agreed with you. Any rod can catch comparatively small, easy to catch, simple technique, in shallow water fish. I have several rods of differing lengths and actions and powers for specific types of fishing that all work perfectly well catching bait for that type of fishing that will be done with the bait. No need for to bring along an extra set up just to catch some herring or mackerel with a sabiki. I slap that sabiki on whatever setup I have, drop it down, the bait jump on and I reel them up. When I'm done catching bait I take the sabiki off, add some leader and a hook and start bait fishing. Easy peasy.

Bless your heart as well.
Locke N Load is offline  
Old 02-01-2019, 09:41 AM
  #124  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: St. Aug FL
Posts: 498
Default

Originally Posted by EdwardB View Post
Fair enough BF55 - understand, agree and respect MOST of what you just posted. I still say you brought a gun to a knife fight but you aren't the only one who rolls like that and I appreciate your honesty. I too am a regular Joe and while I make a decent living, you are way ahead of me with your 25K boat as my ride is a canoe with a 2.5 yamaha! As I said before most of my rods are of the inexpensive general purpose variety and none have ever let me down or broken while fighting a fish knock on wood. I don't think there's much to add here - you've made you points pretty clear and I don't think minds will change much either way.

Now, as for New Jersey, I willl tell you without any hesitation that it does indeed suck big friggin time. By the way so does Florida in alotta ways - it's just that the weather (cept hurricanes) and fishin does not! That's why y'all good ole boys will hafta skootch over a wee bit and make a little room for Big Ed and his crew! Weez coming soon and I CAN'T WAIT TO SHOW Y'ALL HOW WE DO IT UP NAWTH!

No Worries Ed. Bring your cheap rods down here and catch some big fish. Isn't hillarious how mad people are over me saying "expensive rods are not needed to catch inshore fish". You would thought i started a political thread.
bigfish55 is offline  
Old 02-01-2019, 09:47 AM
  #125  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: St. Aug FL
Posts: 498
Default

Originally Posted by Re-Bait View Post
Seeing you refuse to answer direct questions. Tell us how many game fish have you caught over 50 lbs? One??

You are quoting yourself, but you are talking to me I think? I am not sure what it matters, but i have caught dolphin "the 10 pounder you are talking about i guess" cobia, wahoo, saifish, amberjack, and kingfish over 50 that i can remember. I am actually typing from work so i typically just put up images that i have on my work computer. You guys realize that you are making this very very dumb dont you. How many gamefish have you caught over 50 pounds??? The thread is about catching flounder on cheap bass rods. If the dolphin looks 10 pounds to you, you are the one with no credibility. I am not exactly a little fellow though so the fish may not look 53, but it was.

Last edited by bigfish55; 02-01-2019 at 10:18 AM.
bigfish55 is offline  
Old 02-01-2019, 09:51 AM
  #126  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: St. Aug FL
Posts: 498
Default

Originally Posted by haneyrm View Post
Please tell me that this thread is not somehow suggesting that fishing from a $200k bay boat with a $19 rod you scored from Wally World is in any way appropriate.
I'm not real sure where you are going, but i typically fish with the 29.00 dollar rods from academy while wading for flounder. No boat is typically involved. I have caught some decent fish offshore with them though. Like a bull dolphin that came into the schoolies we were fishing for, he was about 25 pounds and was caught on a 29.00 dollar diawa bass rod.
bigfish55 is offline  
Old 02-01-2019, 09:59 AM
  #127  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: St. Aug FL
Posts: 498
Default

Originally Posted by arczr2 View Post
You really think all that is involved to offshore haha. Rigging ballyhoo..Come on down to Louisiana with your little snoopy poles and just troll ballyhoo and see how good you do. What a stupid post/thread
Lol,, here we go, another genius. Tell me again in English, what point you are trying to make here. What fish do you have in Louisiana that we do not have in Florida? Maybe a few more encounters with Yellowfin Tuna but that is about it.

This was never about pulling ballyhoo, i am talking about inshore fishing. With that said i can catch any of your crappy old, dirty water species in Louisiana with my cheap offshore stuff. My TLD25 and my 69.00 dollar trolling rods. My kids were rigging ballyhoo before they went to elementary school, what is hard about that? Am i dealing with just juveniles here, or people who actually have some experience catching fish. READ THE SENTENCE BELOW AND TELL ME IT IS NOT STUPID.

"Come on down to Louisiana with your little snoopy poll and see how good you do" Like Louisiana has something scary in the water! lol

I am in Florida Bro, You are not even on our radar!
bigfish55 is offline  
Old 02-01-2019, 10:16 AM
  #128  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: St. Aug FL
Posts: 498
Default

Originally Posted by Locke N Load View Post
Great. Now Tunnles is wearing off on people.
I agreed with you. Any rod can catch comparatively small, easy to catch, simple technique, in shallow water fish. I have several rods of differing lengths and actions and powers for specific types of fishing that all work perfectly well catching bait for that type of fishing that will be done with the bait. No need for to bring along an extra set up just to catch some herring or mackerel with a sabiki. I slap that sabiki on whatever setup I have, drop it down, the bait jump on and I reel them up. When I'm done catching bait I take the sabiki off, add some leader and a hook and start bait fishing. Easy peasy.

Bless your heart as well.
Nice!

I agree with your post above. I also agree that sometimes an expensive rod may be an advantage, but i think rarely very necessary. Why you think targeting larger flounder in Florida is Easy though, that is not something that i will easily agree with. You would have a better chance of coming to Florida and Catching a 40 pound Dolphin, or a 50 pound Cobia, or a 40 pound kingfish than an 8 or 9 pound flounder. I have caught all of the fish above in way less trips than i have a 9 pound flounder in many more trips. My biggest flounder was just shy of 9 lbs, and i can go after work and fish for them at least once or twice a week. I probably do not get offshore these days more that 12 to 20 times a year, and most trips we catch something that is bragging worthy.

Again, i consider myself an Offshore fisherman, with a flounder addiction. I am certainly not belittling fishing offshore, that is a thing that i love. I still do not need a 300.00 dollar rod for what we do offshore though!

It has been fun arguing with you guys. This has been one of my most popular post's, or probably unpopular, but busy though.
bigfish55 is offline  
Old 02-01-2019, 11:09 AM
  #129  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Alberta
Posts: 415
Default

7 pages later........
meritmat is offline  
Old 02-01-2019, 12:24 PM
  #130  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: LBI NJ
Posts: 2,090
Default

Originally Posted by bigfish55 View Post
..... I am actually typing from work so i typically just put up images that i have on my work computer. You guys realize that you are making this very very dumb dont you. How many gamefish have you caught over 50 pounds??? .
You're a pompous liar. I specifically told you I don't fish for flounder. I specifically said your POS tackle won't work for my applications. And I said your tackle would break under real pressure. You can't acknowledge your error because you must have an ego problem.

So while you are at it..... show us the pictures of a these fish. I've checked your posting history. Nothing about fishing save for a few flounder, baby Mahi and one bull. . So show us pictures of all these big fish you have caught. We know you can't..... You are lying.

Admit you're a troll and move on back to your posts about pickup trucks


arczr2 likes this.
Re-Bait is offline  
Old 02-01-2019, 12:38 PM
  #131  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 141
Default

Good lord people...Fishing rods are like anything else in this world. There comes a point where additional cost comes with less and less incremental practical benefit. That might be a different price point for different types of fishing and species of fish but its neither here nor there. I can tell a big difference between a $20 rod and a $75 rod, less difference between a $75 and $150, and while I may really appreciate the craftsmanship and balance of a $400 custom rod, I also understand that its not going to catch me more fish. Anyhow, big fish don't need expensive rods, they need bigger rods. I'd actually argue for a big fish a much better reel is more important.

The same is true of rifles, boats, sunglasses, dogs, appliances, etc...
JONOV is offline  
Old 02-01-2019, 12:41 PM
  #132  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 345
Default

Originally Posted by bigfish55 View Post
Lol,, here we go, another genius. Tell me again in English, what point you are trying to make here. What fish do you have in Louisiana that we do not have in Florida? Maybe a few more encounters with Yellowfin Tuna but that is about it.

This was never about pulling ballyhoo, i am talking about inshore fishing. With that said i can catch any of your crappy old, dirty water species in Louisiana with my cheap offshore stuff. My TLD25 and my 69.00 dollar trolling rods. My kids were rigging ballyhoo before they went to elementary school, what is hard about that? Am i dealing with just juveniles here, or people who actually have some experience catching fish. READ THE SENTENCE BELOW AND TELL ME IT IS NOT STUPID.

"Come on down to Louisiana with your little snoopy poll and see how good you do" Like Louisiana has something scary in the water! lol

I am in Florida Bro, You are not even on our radar!

Pretty sure South louisiana blows all of your little crappy flounder holes in Florida out of the water. South la has the hottest inshore fishing in the country. Pretty sure your tld 25 and 69 dollar combo is sufficient for your florida brute offshore pelagics such as peanut dolphins, sailfish, and the occasional bull dolphin lol. Theres a reason all the big money marlin tournaments out of florida head straight south of Louisiana on the Florida gulf side tourneys.Bring your setup out of venice or grand isle fishing the floaters and your begging for an azz kicking if you cheap out on reels and tackle around the rigs. Good job also on picking all them flounder out of some guides trash can after a trip makes you really seem like you are a flounder god on here. Great thread I applaud you and your cheap self.

Last edited by arczr2; 02-01-2019 at 12:49 PM.
arczr2 is offline  
Old 02-01-2019, 01:25 PM
  #133  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 3,005
Default

Originally Posted by bigfish55 View Post
i typically fish with the 29.00 dollar rods from academy while wading for flounder. No boat is typically involved.
Wait, wait, wait, you are walking around to catch these fish? Of course any rod will work. Heck a twig and some string would. I don't even consider that fishing. That is picking up fish. What exactly does the rod and reel do in this application? Can you see these fish and walk over to them? Drop the bait in front of their face, wait for them to bite, then pull them up out of the water? Do they even pull any line off the reel? Does the rod even bend over? Aye caramba!
Locke N Load is offline  
Old 02-02-2019, 08:33 AM
  #134  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: St. Aug FL
Posts: 498
Default

Originally Posted by Re-Bait View Post
You're a pompous liar. I specifically told you I don't fish for flounder. I specifically said your POS tackle won't work for my applications. And I said your tackle would break under real pressure. You can't acknowledge your error because you must have an ego problem.

So while you are at it..... show us the pictures of a these fish. I've checked your posting history. Nothing about fishing save for a few flounder, baby Mahi and one bull. . So show us pictures of all these big fish you have caught. We know you can't..... You are lying.

Admit you're a troll and move on back to your posts about pickup trucks
Your a pompous dip chit, with a strong hint of mental retardation. I told you countless times that if your not fishing inshore that we are not talking about the same application. You cannot comprehend that it seems. I also am not lying about anything, why would I lie about anything so petty. We have been using low end rods offshore and inshore for years. I have used 300 dollar rods people have bought on my boat offshore also. Sure great rods I guess. Nothing I would drop another 200 dollars on. Like the guy put so well below, as long as the rod size is appropriate for the fish it will work.

Show us some pictures of you putting yourself on fish in your own boat. I bet you are the one who pays for a boat and a guide. Start acting like you have some sense and maybe I will take you fishing!
bigfish55 is offline  
Old 02-02-2019, 08:37 AM
  #135  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: St. Aug FL
Posts: 498
Default

Originally Posted by JONOV View Post
Good lord people...Fishing rods are like anything else in this world. There comes a point where additional cost comes with less and less incremental practical benefit. That might be a different price point for different types of fishing and species of fish but its neither here nor there. I can tell a big difference between a $20 rod and a $75 rod, less difference between a $75 and $150, and while I may really appreciate the craftsmanship and balance of a $400 custom rod, I also understand that its not going to catch me more fish. Anyhow, big fish don't need expensive rods, they need bigger rods. I'd actually argue for a big fish a much better reel is more important.

The same is true of rifles, boats, sunglasses, dogs, appliances, etc...
well, I think this is about the point I was trying to make, though yours was much better penned I hope you do not get as much hate mail as me.

Look how many posts where I have told these Einstiens that I was talking about inshore species.


cheers
bigfish55 is offline  
Old 02-02-2019, 08:44 AM
  #136  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: St. Aug FL
Posts: 498
Default

Originally Posted by arczr2 View Post
Pretty sure South louisiana blows all of your little crappy flounder holes in Florida out of the water. South la has the hottest inshore fishing in the country. Pretty sure your tld 25 and 69 dollar combo is sufficient for your florida brute offshore pelagics such as peanut dolphins, sailfish, and the occasional bull dolphin lol. Theres a reason all the big money marlin tournaments out of florida head straight south of Louisiana on the Florida gulf side tourneys.Bring your setup out of venice or grand isle fishing the floaters and your begging for an azz kicking if you cheap out on reels and tackle around the rigs. Good job also on picking all them flounder out of some guides trash can after a trip makes you really seem like you are a flounder god on here. Great thread I applaud you and your cheap self.
I,m sorry bud, but I get the feel that you are in your early 20's. You will be alright but you need another 20 years on you before you are worth arguing with. Fishing is good in Louisiana, but millions of people aren't taking vacation to travel to LA to go fishing, unless that cant afford to get to Florida.

i am no flounder God either and dont think i am, heck, i have never even broke the 10 pound mark. I'm not bad though.
bigfish55 is offline  
Old 02-02-2019, 08:55 AM
  #137  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 675
Default

I have about a dozen $400-600 rod/reel combo's I use for bass fishing. Do I catch more fish with them? Doubtful but damn I look good trying.
meritmat, Smokeyr67 and Ducksnutz like this.
tmd11111 is online now  
Old 02-02-2019, 09:11 AM
  #138  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 125
Default

Somebody kill this stupid thread, please.
wojtek is offline  
Old 02-02-2019, 09:25 AM
  #139  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: CT
Posts: 1,420
Default

Some of this is hilarious, and amazing, how personal and passionate people can get over an issue that does not have a right or wrong answer. I have the money and enjoy nice things, so I buy them. I could get drunk on thunderbird, but a fine wine, or a quantity scotch is enjoyable. I'll tell you one thing, I always wish my gear was less expensive when it finds it way overboard, but that is never the case.

Number one problem with society today...is the expectation that everyone should conform.
gundog61 is offline  
Old 02-02-2019, 10:07 AM
  #140  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: LBI NJ
Posts: 2,090
Default

Originally Posted by Re-Bait View Post
You're a pompous liar. I specifically told you I don't fish for flounder. I specifically said your POS tackle won't work for my applications. And I said your tackle would break under real pressure. You can't acknowledge your error because you must have an ego problem.

So while you are at it..... show us the pictures of a these fish. I've checked your posting history. Nothing about fishing save for a few flounder, baby Mahi and one bull. . So show us pictures of all these big fish you have caught. We know you can't..... You are lying.

Admit you're a troll and move on back to your posts about pickup trucks
Where are the pictures? OH THERE AREN'T ANY !!!!!!

Here are mine. YOU BE....TROLL !!!!

FishHarder and meritmat like this.

Last edited by Re-Bait; 02-02-2019 at 10:19 AM.
Re-Bait is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread