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Old 01-19-2019, 03:52 PM
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Default "Jacks" under weed patches for bait, what jacks are they talking about?

I always hear if you cant find bait just get some jacks from the weed patches they're almost as good, what are these jacks???
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Old 01-19-2019, 03:56 PM
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I believe they are small Almaco jacks
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Old 01-19-2019, 04:04 PM
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These little shit heads. I enjoy fucking with them when the bite is slow . Its a video but THT does not support videos. They will eat anything. Even rod tips.
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Old 01-19-2019, 04:08 PM
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We refer to them as bar jacks, not very good table fair but will work as bait no doubt!
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Old 01-19-2019, 04:37 PM
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bar jacks
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Old 01-19-2019, 04:45 PM
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Real PITA if you’re trying to get to a triple tail or Mahi etc. they devour everything and anything that touches the water. We’ve caught them on bare hooks. Not even a lure just a hook.
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Old 01-19-2019, 05:53 PM
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Banded rudderfish.
Bar jacks look like yellow jacks.
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Old 01-19-2019, 06:30 PM
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Almaco Jack. This is what we mainly catch off Ft.Lauderdale on the weed patches
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Old 01-20-2019, 05:35 AM
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So you're talking about the dark fish with the dark stripe on them?I thought maybe thats what they were talking about but most the time they're a little bigger than the bait I want, that works though, they're definitely hard to keep off the line, ill try to freeline one next time
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You should try tying a rope around their tail and riding them.
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Ok, none of those seem like what I am thinking of so I looked on youtube fore someone looking for dolphin under weeds and found the damn things you cant keep off your line, easy to identify from the dark area by their eyes area, these aren't "bait jacks" I guess? (unfortunately, cause they will eat a piece of paper)

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Young Amberjack or banded rudderfish?
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Found one in a 40 lb bull dolphins belly one time.
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Originally Posted by 20biminitwist View Post
Found one in a 40 lb bull dolphins belly one time.
Ya I plan on giving them a shot either way, just never figured the name out and am curious after hearing the jacks term again
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They are certainly Almaco Jack but for some reason often referred to as Bar Jack. I even do it myself more often than not. Believe it or not, they are actually good eating contrary to LetsGoFish's comment (If you filet and grill them fresh, I think you'd change your mind). Of course "to each their own" and I wouldn't target them and rarely keep them to eat unless they are of exceptional size but only because generally we will have plenty of meat in the box coming from other larger fish with better yield for less work at the filet table. They are good live bait particularly for Wahoo and larger Mahi so throw a few in the live well in case you spot a big bull. I like to put a trace wire or heavy fluro leader and drop one down the water column about 75-150' when things are slow at what looks like it should be a productive weed patch. I've summoned some big fish this way in the past...seems to be especially effective during mid days when the bite slows down.
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Almaco Jack,
i lost a rod and reel to them when someone left a hook dangling over the side of the boat.
They're not that bad when deep fried either.
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You want the ones that are the size of your palm if you're planning on using them for bait. Those blackish jacks with a bar over their eyes that will eat anything aren't the right ones, too big. Although if you can get them fired up causing a lot of surface commotion then sometimes it will attract mahi in to see what's happening.
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They eat very well FYI.
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Originally Posted by HurricaneBK View Post
You want the ones that are the size of your palm if you're planning on using them for bait. Those blackish jacks with a bar over their eyes that will eat anything aren't the right ones, too big. Although if you can get them fired up causing a lot of surface commotion then sometimes it will attract mahi in to see what's happening.
What do you mean? Ideally I'd like once the size of my palm just for quantity storage sake but why would the ones the size of your hand or a little bigger not be the ones I want if they're the same fish?
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