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Old 12-02-2018, 09:10 AM
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Hi all,
Been thinking about learning and trying kite fishing, Never done it and never seen it up close, I have a small budget to work with. But that may be ok as I have some of the bigger $ items already

Boat.. Got it, Even has electric reel plugs, but I do not have any electric reels, Not in budget either.
Rods, Assortment of Spinning and conventional, TLD 20's and Tyrnos 30 2 speed. Spinners are 4500 size up to 6500
Live in south florida (the keys to be more specific.)

I have done very very little with live bait, But been learning to toss a net, and been catching a lot of blue runner while trying for yellowtail.

So it is worth it to learn, and what do you think would be minimum investment to give it a try? Of course I will be happy to hear what equipment you would recommend.

Would love to do better at some big fish, Sails, Wahoo, Kings. We typically troll for Tuna and Mahi.

So what do you say, Learn to kite, Or focus on getting live bait and trolling them. It is time to advance some of my skills.
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No. Get better at catching live bait, particularly ballyhoo in the Marathon, and drifting those where you see good water.
You can sight fish sails in the keys with great results as well.
I personally would not kite fish without an electric myself either...everyone shall now retort how you can hand crank but in my experience hand cranking leads to hesitation
fixing baits that aren't right and/or less frequent resetting such that you sit around longer with crappy baits in a bad spot.
I also don't think it's quite as common a technique in the keys as up here in "sailfish alley" Jupiter to Miami.
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Old 12-02-2018, 11:02 AM
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Thanks for the reply, I have watch several of you videos on throwing a cast net as I was trying to learn. I think I finally have a system that will work for me. Just got to try it on a rocking boat. Land and lawn may have a real impact on results.
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Phrased differently, how much do you want to catch sailfish vs. the other fish you mentioned? If sailfish is your main goal then kitefishing is the way to go. Everything else you mentioned can be caught just as well with a 6-8 rod livebait spread that covers the water column. You can use balloons to get the baits away from the boat as well.
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Well I just like action, thus all of the above. Might enjoywahoo , and sails for the action. Wife likes eating the wahoo's,where sails would released by us.

Other billfish would be nice also, but don't go that deep often.

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You can troll naked ballyhoos behind a ballyhoo dredge to catch sails/Mahi/etc. significantly less investment than an electric reel and Kite set up.

Single handed kite kite fishing isn’t easy, I do it often and I like it a lot.....but it’s not easy alone.
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Would not be out alone, Likely 3 or more ppl on the boat. Wife enjoys fishing, and a friend that loves fishing would be out with me. We alternate boats that we take.
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Originally Posted by highflier1 View Post
Thanks for the reply, I have watch several of you videos on throwing a cast net as I was trying to learn. I think I finally have a system that will work for me. Just got to try it on a rocking boat. Land and lawn may have a real impact on results.
Thank you very much. Yes, yes they do! LOL
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Originally Posted by DarcizzleOffshore View Post
No. Get better at catching live bait, particularly ballyhoo in the Marathon, and drifting those where you see good water.
You can sight fish sails in the keys with great results as well.
I personally would not kite fish without an electric myself either...everyone shall now retort how you can hand crank but in my experience hand cranking leads to hesitation
fixing baits that aren't right and/or less frequent resetting such that you sit around longer with crappy baits in a bad spot.
I also don't think it's quite as common a technique in the keys as up here in "sailfish alley" Jupiter to Miami.

Well said. I just had this discussion with a buddy who doesn't have an electric kite reel.
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At the risk of asking a stupid question......

What keeps the kite rod from flying off along with the kite? I suppose that it's tethered but would like to confirm.
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At the risk of asking a stupid question......

What keeps the kite rod from flying off along with the kite? I suppose that it's tethered but would like to confirm.
Speaking for myself, I use the safety straps That i purchased from Gills here on THT. They’re at least 3 years old and have not faded at all.
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don't do it without an electric reel.
Well, actually, do it once without the electric. Just so you know why everyone tells you why you shouldn't do it without one.
the new Daiwa Tanacom 500 would be a nice option. And you can often find used Kristal 601s for pretty cheap.
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kite yes..example / slow day Monday
No takers on free lined gog
No takers on Ballooned gog
3 takers off the kite
With 3+ people aboard you can do it without electric
1 on the kite rod & one on the bait rod ..a bit of coordinating but doable if need be.
Shoot a pm ..my buddy has a place at Boot Key & I am behind the airport when in town .
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Originally Posted by DarcizzleOffshore View Post
No. Get better at catching live bait, particularly ballyhoo in the Marathon, and drifting those where you see good water.
You can sight fish sails in the keys with great results as well.
I personally would not kite fish without an electric myself either...everyone shall now retort how you can hand crank but in my experience hand cranking leads to hesitation
fixing baits that aren't right and/or less frequent resetting such that you sit around longer with crappy baits in a bad spot.
I also don't think it's quite as common a technique in the keys as up here in "sailfish alley" Jupiter to Miami.
Sailfish alley must take you to the Sailfish Capital, Stuart. That's awesome.
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Is using an electric reel for double duty deep dropping and kite fishing a viable thing or is that just impractical ?
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Originally Posted by KongerUp View Post
Sailfish alley must take you to the Sailfish Capital, Stuart. That's awesome.
I don't know when the bites going off in the Keys it can be pretty spectacular.Buddy of mine that was an angler on a boat released 65 in on day last year.
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Is using an electric reel for double duty deep dropping and kite fishing a viable thing or is that just impractical ?
That's what I do. Tanacom 1k set up for kite all winter and deep drop all summer. Just spool the kite rig onto a spare spool and swap the reel to a deep drop rod from the kite rod.

It probably wouldn't survive a decent swordfish but its fine for bottom fishing.
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Originally Posted by Tainui View Post
That's what I do. Tanacom 1k set up for kite all winter and deep drop all summer. Just spool the kite rig onto a spare spool and swap the reel to a deep drop rod from the kite rod.

It probably wouldn't survive a decent swordfish but its fine for bottom fishing.
Thanks for the feedback T. Those electric set - ups are not cheap.
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Thanks for the feedback T. Those electric set - ups are not cheap.
I agree but once you've spent a windy day reeling the kites back from +200' away its a worthwhile investment. You might be able to scoop up a used reel on THT. They do come up every so often.
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I used to exclusively troll for fishing, but a good friend who has long since passed got me into kite fishing. Man it is nice. It takes some trial and error to get it right. You'll dump the kite in the water several times. But once you get it dialed in, you will be glad you did. Watching the bite from the boat is worth the time spent getting it right Fighting a nice size fish, from a dead boat, with 20lb tackle is a real challenge. Takes some skill vs. just backing down on the troll.

You do not need an electric reel. Yes it does make things easier, but I fished 20 yrs without one and still use a Penn Senator 114 as a second kite reel from time to time.

Just get a second hand Penn Senator 114. Load it with 50lb braid or dacron and the kite clips. SFE still makes a pretty good kite. An inexpensive kite rod. You can probably be all in for well under $500. If you want to go electric down the road, convert the Senator with an Electramate, or save up for a Diawa Tanacoma I personally like the Diawa Tanacoma 750 for kite reels. Lighter, smaller and still have plenty of drag if you want to use it for deep dropping. Every year Bass Pro does a $100off with a reel trade in, so keep an eye out for that. This year they even included a free spool of 80lb braid with the reels.

Besides the kite reel and kite. You will need a sea anchor. Check out an Army/Navy supply stores for small parachute. For smaller boats, a 5ft parachute/anchor will work.

Learn to Kite.
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