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Old 12-05-2018, 03:24 PM
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I've never had a problem flying a kite or reeling it with on a tld 50.
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Old 12-06-2018, 06:08 AM
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Well I am still reading replys, A few posts up somebody mentioned a electramate, A acquaintance asked me to sell a unit, the reel looks rough, it has a 2' rod that is in good shape as well as the electra mate itself.Just out of curiosity what is one of those worth.
I think it is a senator 12/0 reel.
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Old 12-06-2018, 06:35 AM
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Not sure about the electra mate but another option is the Banax reel that Frigate Sales sells on here. Seems to have a lot of happy customers, specs similar to Tanacom. If I remember correctly he also has some combo options with rods built for these reels. I haven't fished one but will be investing in electrics for next summer and will likely go with these.

To echo others' statements: I learned to kite fish without an electric, used an old 9/0 senator on a short rod, and it sucks. We fished TLD 20s off that. All doable but not the best way. You will hesitiate to change/check baits etc. Like a lot of things in fishing/boating, it's expensive to do it right.

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Old 12-06-2018, 08:38 AM
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Unless something changed I don't think the Banax can be used for kites.The hole on the level wind is pretty small.At least on mine.
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Old 12-07-2018, 06:57 AM
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I got into kite fishing this past summer (in North Carolina) and I think it is a great thing to add to your arsenal of fishing skills. We have normally just trolled live Menhaden or bluefish for kings/mahi and I wanted to have something to do on those slow days when trolling just isn't productive.

I set up a very basic kite rig with a Penn Senator and an aftco kite with two release clips. It isnt the best kite for very windy or windless days but I've had very very few days where I couldn't figure out how to make it fly.

I love to use it over live bottom while we are bottom fishing. I don't use an electric reel, which does have its limitations, but I figured that it would be worth the hassle to learn if this is worth the effort before investing in an electric reel. I will probably stick with the manual reel just because it really hasnt been that much of an issue. The elec-tra-mates are awesome setups that are made up here in NC and you'll find them on 99.9% of commercial boats because they are damn near bullet proof.
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Any input on what the electramate is worth?
BTW I was aware of the banax thread and read many pages of it. Just not into spending 600.00 right now.

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Old 12-07-2018, 11:57 AM
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I can't imagine that electra mate being worth much more than 150ish bucks. Maybe 200ish if the reel itself were in good condition.
Obviously, I'm assuming a little bit on what model it is, but there are only so many that would have a 12/0 attached.
Look on ebay at the completed listings and see what's there. That's what I just did to come up with my estimate.
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Old 12-07-2018, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by highflier1 View Post
Any input on what the electramate is worth?
BTW I was aware of the banax thread and read many pages of it. Just not into spending 600.00 right now.

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Give this guy a call. He services a ton of them and can probably point you in the right direction. https://www.tomsreelservices.com
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Old 12-07-2018, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by highflier1 View Post
Any input on what the electramate is worth?
BTW I was aware of the banax thread and read many pages of it. Just not into spending 600.00 right now.

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Jim I am going to be down next month for a bit, I have a couple of older Miya Epoch electrics, if you want to use one for a few months and see if that fishing is for you, your welcome to use them. They will pull a kite in with no problem. Mine were used double duty for deep drops and kites.
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Old 12-08-2018, 03:11 AM
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Mike, Nice offer, I will think about it. What might even be better, is we take my boat and we fish those reels with you teaching me. There is still a few beer over here with your name on them. No worries I replaced your beers after IRMA they will not be skunked LOL
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Old 12-08-2018, 04:58 PM
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ONce you start kite fishing, its hard to go back to not doing it. On windy days, just keep the boat into the wind and you use the length & V of the boat to just gently go up and down the waves, whereas as trolling you have to keep a certain speed and can be a bit rough, and on nice days just drift along beam to the seas. Its very fun & most productive way to fish. Your fuel bill will decrease,

What you save onfuel, you can easily spend on live bait. The expensive part is not necessarily getting the gear, it can be buying the live bait. You can catch some live bait day of fishing a hell of a lot easier in Keys than we can in Broward, but sometimes you just buy some live bait so you can just get on the boat and go fish.

I dont know why everyone thinks hand cranking is THAT big a deal. Yes its not fun in 20 knot winds, but its not that hard on days say up to 15 knots, and there are plenty of days that are not that windy in SE Florida. You can use one if theReel Crank on a cordless drill tools to get it in if its windy, but thats fising. If you are too lazy to crank it in to change out your baits, you are probably too lazy when trolling to switch out your baits often or make sure they are fully clear of weeds. Cant be lazy uf you want to catch fish. Are electrics nice? Yes, but start with a $50 used Senator (or spend a little more and get and old International 20, TLD 50, etc.) and a $50 kite rod, get a pre-rigged kit that has the clips & swivels already on it for $60-$70, and an SFE green or red kite for $140, and for $300 you can try it out, then upgrade from there.

Electric reel can come after that when you feel you are into it enough to invest in it. Then you will want a second kite when you get good at it. Then have multiple kites forvaious winds, helium tank on board, bait pens at your dock....it can become very addictive, but the last 2 Saturdays out of Pompano, there have been boats catching a dozen sails in local tournaments, and thats just fun. Plus all the other fish that love the kite fished live bait.
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^ This guy knows his stuff, has taught me a lot.
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Old 12-12-2018, 02:33 PM
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Learn to walk before you run.

Get your bait catching skills to the point where you will be certain you have 100 baits of your choice before you untie the boat in the morning.

Everyone wants to catch sailfish wahoo and tuna, its not that simple at first. I still have caught more sails drifting beam to with 3 ballyhoo than I have on kites and with an inexperienced crew the land rate is at least double. Learn to kite fish with people who do it all the time. Spend your time on the water having fun catching fish instead of trying to fly kites without knowing how to.

Also if you are not ready to spend the money on kite rods with electrics yet dont and dont let anyone tell you its not that bad hand cranking kites. It is miserable.
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Old 01-02-2019, 07:10 PM
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Update,

I have picked up a used electramate 920 xp with a senator 9/0 reel. The electramate is in good shape, I have already adapted it to my boats power plugs and it is working fine. The senator on the other had is a little rough. It is working well, but it does need service. It came with Kite rod, and rigged with 3 clips. It has some old heavy mono on it.

During winter months I plan to use it as a Kite setup. Once I learn that is.

During summer I would like to deep drop with it. Thus Some more questions.

1) Deep drop would be better with braid, what strength? Would 1000 Yards be enough line on it, I know it is rated for 1500 yards, but trying to be budget minded. I am sure just about 100% of my deep drop would be in 600-1000 feet, (1/3 of the 1000 yards)

2) Is 100 lb about right for kit and deep drop double duty work?

3) Lastly, I know the reel is rated to about 22ish lbs of drag. I did not see any info on the electramate. What size fish should I limit myself to.

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Old 01-02-2019, 08:30 PM
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This is why you should get into kite fishing. My son caught this monster 55 pound king mackerel at sunset this afternoon off of Key Largo on a live blue runner fished off of a kite. You never know what’s going to hit.
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Old 01-02-2019, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by highflier1 View Post
Update,

I have picked up a used electramate 920 xp with a senator 9/0 reel. The electramate is in good shape, I have already adapted it to my boats power plugs and it is working fine. The senator on the other had is a little rough. It is working well, but it does need service. It came with Kite rod, and rigged with 3 clips. It has some old heavy mono on it.

During winter months I plan to use it as a Kite setup. Once I learn that is.

During summer I would like to deep drop with it. Thus Some more questions.

1) Deep drop would be better with braid, what strength? Would 1000 Yards be enough line on it, I know it is rated for 1500 yards, but trying to be budget minded. I am sure just about 100% of my deep drop would be in 600-1000 feet, (1/3 of the 1000 yards)

2) Is 100 lb about right for kit and deep drop double duty work?

3) Lastly, I know the reel is rated to about 22ish lbs of drag. I did not see any info on the electramate. What size fish should I limit myself to.

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I have multiple kit set ups from 30lb all the way to 100lb power pro and 80lb mono lines for stormy days. But when I had one all purpose rod I stuck with 65lb power pro. You’re not dead lifting 65lbs from the deep so you have some give. 1000 yards is more than enough for anything up to 1000ft or even a little more. I still have a tanacom that does double duty.
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Old 01-03-2019, 05:01 AM
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I have multiple kit set ups from 30lb all the way to 100lb power pro and 80lb mono lines for stormy days. But when I had one all purpose rod I stuck with 65lb power pro. You’re not dead lifting 65lbs from the deep so you have some give. 1000 yards is more than enough for anything up to 1000ft or even a little more. I still have a tanacom that does double duty.
Well than my 100lb probably is in the ball park. I will be getting some of the china stuff, it tends to be over rated. My guess is 100 is really like 70ish. I just need to decide hi-vis yellow or metered now, Same cost either way.
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Well than my 100lb probably is in the ball park. I will be getting some of the china stuff, it tends to be over rated. My guess is 100 is really like 70ish. I just need to decide hi-vis yellow or metered now, Same cost either way.

just take a look look at the diameter. Your main enemies are the wind resistance on the line itself and the overall weight. If it was up to me I’d run 100lb all day with floss markers for everything. But light wind conditions would not allow me to pull the line taunt from the kite; causing the line to droop at the clips. The higher you can get that kite the stronger and more consistent the wind will be. Some days it takes 20lb braid to get the kite running and I can only run one clip to keep it flying.
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Old 01-03-2019, 05:40 PM
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Diameter would be .5mm= 90lb to .6mm=130 depending on brand.
I was wondering if the Floss would work on braid. Guess that is a yes
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Surprised nobody has mentioned the old school kite rods - the ones with 10 or 12 inch diameter by 1 1/2 inch width reels on a 2 foot or so rod. They hold as much line as you'll ever need and will retrieve as fast as electrics without much effort. The last one I got was used, from ebay for 50 bucks. They are extremely simple and last forever.
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