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Old 12-06-2018, 11:02 AM
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I asked him why on his YouTube channel and this is what he said.

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"you want the gaff in the guts where the meat would be cutt off anyway. worst possible spot is the upper side. Thats the top loin and best meat"
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Old 12-06-2018, 04:43 PM
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I have gaffed many thousands of tuna (once the boat stops I become a deckhand) and it is not hard to get a tuna in the head if you are patient- if we can do it on 20 lb albacore, it should be easy and a 80 lb YFT with a much bigger head.

We gaff from the top, pulling them towards the boat and get headshots 99% of the time.

Do not dig at the fish, make sure it is on top of the water and horizontal.

Gaffing should be a short, controlled movement done with both hands, not a one-handed stab at the fish.

It takes very little effort to drive a gaff into a fish, so there is no need to take a "swing" at, just let the weight of the fish bury the gaff.

We tell our clients to keep the tuna as far away from the boat as possible and wait for the tuna to do the death spiral and we get them on the inside part of the spiral.

If you can't get a good shot, wait.

We slurry ours in our fish boxes with chiller plates and salted ice- it takes the heat out right away and will freeze them solid on a slow day.

Most guys use a short garbage can filled with seawater and salted ice.

Gaffing is like docking, don't be in a hurry and the more you do it the easier it gets, but if you practice doing it wrong, you will always do it wrong.
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Old 12-06-2018, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 95wellcraft View Post
I asked him why on his YouTube channel and this is what he said.

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"you want the gaff in the guts where the meat would be cutt off anyway. worst possible spot is the upper side. Thats the top loin and best meat"
That guy is probably the type of guy who tries to make his tuna into fish and chips and eats it with ketchup.
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Old 12-06-2018, 05:59 PM
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what happens when you hold a tuna upside down?
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Old 12-06-2018, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by forevertroll View Post
what happens when you hold a tuna upside down?
not the same effect when they're held upside down by thier guys and belly being ripped out.
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Old 12-06-2018, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by forevertroll View Post
what happens when you hold a tuna upside down?
Username is apt
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Old 12-06-2018, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DotRotten View Post
not the same effect when they're held upside down by thier guys and belly being ripped out.
are you sure or guessing?
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Old 12-06-2018, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by forevertroll View Post
are you sure or guessing?
lol. Not guessing when I type that I have probably stuck more pelagics then you. I've probably darted more gbft than your daddy's stuck yo momma.
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Old 12-06-2018, 07:04 PM
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You better be ready if you gaff a big green tuna in the belly. Good way to look like a idiot. Always gaff in the head. It doesn’t matter what size the tuna is 600 pounder 3,4,5” hook he ain’t goin nowhere.
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Old 12-06-2018, 07:59 PM
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I go for the head shot. I will admit though, I'm not always successful with gaff location, but pretty good at getting it in the boat.
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It sounds like many just throw their fish in the box, maybe after bleeding, but we gut our fish and hose the cavity out before putting them into the box. Gut gaffing seems like just the beginning of caring for the meat properly.

Hitting the fillet is a sure fire way to ruining a good section of meat.
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Old 12-07-2018, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by CuzzA View Post
It sounds like many just throw their fish in the box, maybe after bleeding, but we gut our fish and hose the cavity out before putting them into the box. Gut gaffing seems like just the beginning of caring for the meat properly.

Hitting the fillet is a sure fire way to ruining a good section of meat.
You are correct. Throwing a live tuna on ice is one of the worst things you can do. We did this in our early years. It turns the meat to mush. You don't have to gut and collar (although it's always best) but definitely make sure they are completely immobile and the brain is dead.
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Old 12-07-2018, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by forevertroll View Post
what happens when you hold a tuna upside down?
You bust "A NUT"
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Originally Posted by HookMeUpII View Post
You are correct. Throwing a live tuna on ice is one of the worst things you can do. We did this in our early years. It turns the meat to mush. You don't have to gut and collar (although it's always best) but definitely make sure they are completely immobile and the brain is dead.
I spearfish a lot and I don't know if there's any truth to this, but I've heard chefs prefer speared meat, because the fish is dispatched almost instantly. The theory I heard was if a fish is struggling too long, the lactic acid is building up in the meat and altering the flavor. So it makes sense to kill, bleed and gut your fish. The latter is just knowing my fish are sitting in a box for hours and hours with shit inside them.
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Originally Posted by CuzzA View Post
I spearfish a lot and I don't know if there's any truth to this, but I've heard chefs prefer speared meat, because the fish is dispatched almost instantly. The theory I heard was if a fish is struggling too long, the lactic acid is building up in the meat and altering the flavor. So it makes sense to kill, bleed and gut your fish. The latter is just knowing my fish are sitting in a box for hours and hours with shit inside them.
Spearfishing not only insta bleeds the fish but like you said, doesn't allow them to fight. Lactic acid and overheating causes "burn" that is undesirable in the fish trade when it comes to tuna. We almost always collar and gut our fish. I think it's more important to bleed them properly, making sure they are completely brain dead before icing, and if it's a big fish; cooling them down before boating.
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Originally Posted by HookMeUpII View Post
You are correct. Throwing a live tuna on ice is one of the worst things you can do. We did this in our early years. It turns the meat to mush. You don't have to gut and collar (although it's always best) but definitely make sure they are completely immobile and the brain is dead.

interesting I always wondered why this one boat I chatted always sticks a screw driver into the tuna brain

learned something new thanks
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Originally Posted by DotRotten View Post
lol. Not guessing when I type that I have probably stuck more pelagics then you. I've probably darted more gbft than your daddy's stuck yo momma.
I dont harpoon giant blackfin tuna, because I hold them upside down. Then I cover their eye ball and whisper sweet lullabies.


but nice attempt at hurling insults, it's a great way to assert to male dominance on the internet.
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Old 12-08-2018, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by forevertroll View Post
giant blackfin tuna,
lol
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I have boated a few YFT and have gone to placing a towel on the fish while on deck and putting an ice pick in the brain. Works wonders. We NEVER gut or "alter" the fish before docking the boat. Natural Resource police in Maryland will bury you under the jail for that. YMMV.
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Originally Posted by mdman352 View Post
I have boated a few YFT and have gone to placing a towel on the fish while on deck and putting an ice pick in the brain. Works wonders. We NEVER gut or "alter" the fish before docking the boat. Natural Resource police in Maryland will bury you under the jail for that. YMMV.
Seriously? thats the law up there?

Gutting and gilling fish has been done forever down here, and it does seem to make a nicer filet when its done.
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