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Old 11-28-2018, 08:13 PM
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Question Newer Penn spinning reels hard to reel...

I ordered a Penn 3500 Spinfisher last year, have 3 that are older. I noticed the reel felt like there was some resistance when reeling, like there is drag on the reel.

I just ordered and received a new Penn Battle 3000 reel and right out of the box the same thing.

I took the handles off each and the cavity is filled with blue grease, very thick stuff, looks like Yamaha grease, so I imagine the gears are covered in it and it's what is causing the drag feeling when I reel.

My older Penn Spinfishers reel effortlessly. My newer Shimanos reel smoothly and effortlessly too.

Has anyone else experienced this with new Penn reels?

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Absolutely. I just sold all my Penn Battle II’s and Spinfisher V’s because of this. I couldn’t stand it. I even tried removing the Penn grease but it didn’t help.
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put some oil in the left side right side and spool bearings and it will loosen up with use.
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Glad to hear I'm not imagining it!

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put some oil in the left side right side and spool bearings and it will loosen up with use.
I was thinking of trying WD40?
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The material they use in those reels for the main and crosswind gears is made of what I would best describe as pot metal.

Without that heavy grease those parts will begin to break down quickly.

Proceed with caution!
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Old 11-29-2018, 06:29 AM
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i had this feeling in a slammer III i got last year. i just wiped a little bit of the grease off the main shaft and the problem went away. worked well all season with no issues.
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The material they use in those reels for the main and crosswind gears is made of what I would best describe as pot metal.

Without that heavy grease those parts will begin to break down quickly.

Proceed with caution!
I get it Rick, but in my opinion the reels are for all intense and purpose unusable in their current form.
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Originally Posted by Fish'nFool View Post
Glad to hear I'm not imagining it!



I was thinking of trying WD40?
WD40 is a solvent, not an oil. i think most people recommend ReelX by Corrosion X for oil. I've been doing a lot of reading on it lately - including suggestions/writing by Rick
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This is the reason I decided against Penn and went with the Daiwa BG series. Every time I am in a tackle store and pick up a Penn I just shake my head after I wind it.
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WD40 is a solvent, not an oil. i think most people recommend ReelX by Corrosion X for oil. I've been doing a lot of reading on it lately - including suggestions/writing by Rick
Bearings need oil or corrosionX...gears need grease. Any oil or WD40 dumped into a reel is going to thin the grease to the point that the gears will break down and the meshing surface of the gears will wear quickly. The only time I use WD40 is as a rinse for reels that have been submerged, and when removed from the rinse they are thoroughly flushed. I also use it as a protectant before and after I fish my gear. Yes, I spray and wipe my gear down before I fish.

I use Amsoil synthetic marine grease in all the reels I service. It is painted onto the gear teeth and to surfaces inside the reels. I dont find it as heavy as some manufacturers grease. Shimano uses a very long lasting and lighter grease. I keep a tub of it around for use in Stellas, Sustains and Twin Power reels. It is pretty expensive compared to most grease I buy. Hell, TSI321, a very light oil and CorrosionX are both about $100 a gallon.
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Rick so what's the problem with Penn's all of a sudden? This wasn't an issue 5 yrs ago.

And more importantly what can I do about it?
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Sell them and buy the Daiwa BG’s, that what I did. I would love to buy the new Spinfisher VI, especially since they’ve supposedly upgraded the gears to machined gears versus pot metal. I’m even skeptical of that since the smaller reels have a machined aluminum main gear, but for some reason when you look at it, more than half of it is painted black?!
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Hm. Have Clash, Spinfisher V, Slammer 3's maybe 8 reels in various sizes and never had this issue.
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Hm. Have Clash, Spinfisher V, Slammer 3's maybe 8 reels in various sizes and never had this issue.
Nor have I up until I ordered 2 new reels over the last couple of yrs. As stated my older spinfishers are fine. Penn has changed something. Maybe they decided to pack the gearbox with more grease due to a high incidence of failures?

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Originally Posted by Fish'nFool View Post
Nor have I up until I ordered 2 new reels over the last couple of yrs. As stated my older spinfishers are fine. Penn has changed something. Maybe they decided to pack the gearbox with more grease due to a high incidence of failures?
You really can't expect much from a reel made in China with inferior metals , they aren't exactly known for machining precise/exact tolerances . The fact that Penn allowed this to happen to cut costs says it all . If you want a smooth dependable reel , get a BG or a Saltist .
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Intents. And never experienced this issue with Penn reels. My spinfishers have been practically bullet proof.
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Intents. And never experienced this issue with Penn reels. My spinfishers have been practically bullet proof.
well then I guess the rest of us are just imagining it.
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You really can't expect much from a reel made in China with inferior metals , they aren't exactly known for machining precise/exact tolerances . The fact that Penn allowed this to happen to cut costs says it all . If you want a smooth dependable reel , get a BG or a Saltist .
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I have used cheaper Chinese made reels without this issue, never mind I have been using Spinfishers for going on 10 years that dont have this issue.

I have Shimanos including Stella's so dont tell me what I need to use if I want smooth. My other Penn Spinfisher ARE SMOOTH, been work horses and guess what all but one are made in China, my other is one of the last USA made Spinfisher models.

The issue is this latest incarnation of reels from Penn.
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Originally Posted by Fish'nFool View Post
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I have used cheaper Chinese made reels without this issue, never mind I have been using Spinfishers for going on 10 years that dont have this issue.

I have Shimanos including Stella's so dont tell me what I need to use if I want smooth. My other Penn Spinfisher ARE SMOOTH, been work horses and guess what all but one are made in China, my other is one of the last USA made Spinfisher models.

The issue is this latest incarnation of reels from Penn.
But now the new Penn's are NOT smooth anymore . It looks like Penn talked to their rep over there about getting the per unit cost down , and what you have is the end result . For a couple bucks less per unit they released an inferior product . Maybe Penn considers them disposable at that price point and doesn't care about quality . Obviously their QC released them to market that way . If Penn truly cared about quality in the lesser reels , they would never have moved manufacturing to China .

You really can't compare Stella's to BG's , I mentioned them because they were the same price point as the Penn's . I hope your Stella's last longer than the one's I took to Rick . They make expensive paperweights , several years old and parts were NLA .
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