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Rundeep 10-27-2018 05:50 PM

Ceramic guides
 
So my question is why do ceramic guides pop out, I have had 2 or 3 rods(quality name) have the guides come loose. Rods are in rod holders on boat ,through transport in secured rod holders and after washing go into rod holders in my office. I understand rod tips are more prevalent and subjected to use and abuse . It should be noted that a hook never goes into a guide in fear of compromising the ceramic guide, but attached to guide frame arm or snap release on conventional. Rods are 4 years old , and again handled with care. I was told guides are pressed into place, however direct correlation to summer and heat exposure may be the cause. Any thoughts?

highflier1 10-28-2018 09:13 AM

Seems to happen to all rods, I was just given for free about 6 rods, All had guide damage, some beyond even being used to fish. It is not hard, but takes some time to do decent but inexpensive repairs yourself. I have about $30.00 into repairing them all, A few ppl could not even tell where the repairs were made, end the other agreed, likely as strong as new.

I suggest getting a few extra rods, save the broken ones till there is 2-3 in need of repair, then get the thread epoxy and go to it.

Highflier

airbrush 10-28-2018 09:19 AM

On my most used rods I use the stainless RSPG guides. You can abuse them and they keep on ticking. If you really like the ceramics, get a needle nosed bottle and put epoxy in it. Clean your guides off with alcohol and lay a thin bead around the edge between the ceramic and guide.

ogur 10-28-2018 03:51 PM

Just because it is a quality name does not mean its a quality guide. Look for a Fuji tag on the rods when purchasing. I have terez rods that are from 2010 that We use every time we leave the dock no guide issues. I have freshwater rods that are close to 20 yrs old that have never had an issue I have used them in temps from 30 degrees to 100 degrees on lakes around home.

ex-conn 10-28-2018 04:12 PM

i have started washing all my rods with various car soaps and spraying the guides with corrosion x for the past 6 yrs years i think it protects the metal from rust better, obviosly the higher end titanium will not rust but still give them tlc as well after a rough day of abuse

nuffaredy 10-28-2018 11:30 PM


Originally Posted by airbrush (Post 11937256)
On my most used rods I use the stainless helix guides. You can abuse them and they keep on ticking. If you really like the ceramics, get a needle nosed bottle and put epoxy in it. Clean your guides off with alcohol and lay a thin bead around the edge between the ceramic and guide.


i wont buy a rod with ceramic guides, at least not for a boat rod.
Mr Murphy says that they’ll fall apart at the worst possible moment!

mdees88 10-29-2018 06:57 AM

I have around 10 rods with Fuji ceramic eyes that get used reguraly. I haven't had any issues with them. I have had non Fuji inserts pop out before.

Locke N Load 10-30-2018 05:00 PM

x3 for Fuji guides. I build my own rods. All but two were built with Fuji. One brand had two guides pop right away so all were replaced with Fuji. No issues since. The other non-Fuji rod has ALPS with no issues as well. I stick with Fuji. Doesn't have to be SiC either. The SiN and Alconite work too.

Rundeep 10-30-2018 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by Locke N Load (Post 11944317)
x3 for Fuji guides. I build my own rods. All but two were built with Fuji. One brand had two guides pop right away so all were replaced with Fuji. No issues since. The other non-Fuji rod has ALPS with no issues as well. I stick with Fuji. Doesn't have to be SiC either. The SiN and Alconite work too.

I have wanted to get into this or make a few of my own how difficult is this kinda the old saying "if you want something done right, do it yourself."

Locke N Load 10-31-2018 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by Rundeep (Post 11944330)
I have wanted to get into this or make a few of my own how difficult is this kinda the old saying "if you want something done right, do it yourself."

Difficult? No. Time consuming? Yes. There is a learning curve to making your own rods. It takes lots of studying first, accumulating the proper tools, practice and plenty of patience. It can sometimes save you a little money, but usually it is more expensive. I know for me at least I select higher grade components than stock. The benefit is you get a rod built to your exact specifications and the satisfaction of using a rod you made yourself.

fjmaverick 10-31-2018 07:20 AM

I spray mine down thoroughly then let them dry. When at home I give a wipe down with pledge multi surface.

SWF Pontoon Angler 11-02-2018 06:05 AM

Never had any trouble for 50 years with rod guides in fresh water. The trouble started 18 years ago when I moved to Florida and salt water. Now I buy Ugly Stiks that are inexpensive, good rods, and have stainless steel guides, problem solved.

Door#3 11-02-2018 09:37 AM

I've had one insert pop out on the one tip in the last decade. Most, but not all, of my guides are Fuji. No complaints...

fmach13 11-08-2018 07:18 PM

Another vote for Fuji guides. What are you casting/reeling in through your guides? I use Spro swivels and have reeled them in while bottom fishing w/o any issues.

Cobia206 11-08-2018 08:26 PM

All my rods have Fuji guides. Some rods are twenty years old. Only once have I found the ceramic ring to come lose

FatCat1 11-09-2018 02:41 AM


Originally Posted by nuffaredy (Post 11938656)



i wont buy a rod with ceramic guides, at least not for a boat rod.
Mr Murphy says that they’ll fall apart at the worst possible moment!

I have started doing the same. No more ceramic guides for me.


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