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Capt_Rocky 10-26-2018 08:12 AM

Motor is purchased, now time to find a 80 wide and figure out my gearing ratios. In anyone’s opinion would you use belt drive or chain? I like chain because there would be no stretch or loss of tourqe. But belt would be easier to man handle

Frigate Sales 10-26-2018 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by Capt_Rocky (Post 11932359)
Motor is purchased, now time to find a 80 wide and figure out my gearing ratios. In anyone’s opinion would you use belt drive or chain? I like chain because there would be no stretch or loss of tourqe. But belt would be easier to man handle

Synchronous Belt.
They (Gates etc) make some very strong belts these days, can handle the same loads as roller chain, widths being equal. Stainless pulleys, and a non metallic belt sounds like the combo for the environment.

Gary999 10-26-2018 10:52 AM

Why not direct drive? Fish Winch uses windshield wiper motors that have the built in gear reduction. Screws into the handle shaft. I would recommend a Penn II 80 for strength and simplicity. $500 or so.

Looking forward to what you come up with.

Gary999 12-19-2018 08:42 AM

Update?

highflier1 12-21-2018 08:48 AM

Gear reduction is a must, I like/love brushless motors because of the how much more power and less heat they can produce. Controllers are not that expensive, and even larger motors push 1000 watts of power are very cheap, in fact cheap enough that you may even buy a few then just toss one out and put the new one in when it starts to fail. which depending on your design and use coud be quick or quick some time. I have thought about doing this but the mechanical design has held me off.

Just for fun, look at some RC sites for motors and controllers. Hobbyking is one for example.
Here is one such motor, Note this is a outrunner style which is higher torque and lower RPM. While it is peak rated at 8000 watts, I think a basic design would be under half that for continuos use.
https://hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-...ner-motor.html

Say 3000-4000 under load. You could integrate a speed controller that would let you come up slow or fast, as well as monitor the Watts to ensure you bring that weight/fish up at a speed which will not over work your setup.

highflier1 12-21-2018 09:27 AM

As I think about it, what would be cool is a pressure switch that engages the motor So that as you are pumping fishing rod, irt engages and reels on the downward motion, then as the fish runs and pressure increases it shuts off the motor, this way you can you drag to wear the fish out, and the motor to gain line when possible. Just like fighting a fish without electric, except you can keep 2 hands on the rod, not hae to worry about the reel handle. Not to mention if the fish starts to run at you the electric will go into its highest speed to try and catch up to the fish.

Mercury addict 12-21-2018 04:53 PM

You’d be surprised
 
The harder you pull on a sword the hard it fights so take it easy. Use sacrificial rebar for the drop. Once it’s down the the rebar falls off and you use a 5# lead to hold you down. You could look at the reel crankie as an alternative motor. Your bulls can do the job in my opinion.

Bugtussle 12-26-2018 04:09 AM

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Capt_Rocky 03-14-2019 11:44 AM

Well......it was a good idea

Got a good dc motor, but just could not get it to reliably run and keep a load. Ordered another beefier motor but it was just too big to be practical. Tried a chain and a belt and the belt did much better but continually had issues on the reel gear. I guess out of frustration with numerous other issues popping up I ended up with an LP1200. Maybe in the future I will revisit this but for now I want to fish.

Now I just need to learn how to catch swordfish

John_Madison CT 03-14-2019 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by Capt_Rocky (Post 12334718)
Well......it was a good idea

Got a good dc motor, but just could not get it to reliably run and keep a load. Ordered another beefier motor but it was just too big to be practical. Tried a chain and a belt and the belt did much better but continually had issues on the reel gear. I guess out of frustration with numerous other issues popping up I ended up with an LP1200. Maybe in the future I will revisit this but for now I want to fish.

Now I just need to learn how to catch swordfish



You're not alone. Many have tried alternate routes to getting a good Deep Drop reel (i.e. we wasted our money on the Daiwa Beastmaster) but end up with the best, an LP1200.




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