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Old 11-19-2018, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by fishingneighbor View Post
Has anyone used these Nomad DTX Minnows with a trolling harness? https://www.meltontackle.com/trolling-harness.html I have not been able to fish mine yet. Just wondering if the trolling harness is okay for a certain speed range or if performance is an issue at any speed?
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at least one member on here has, I've ordered the same but haven't gotten a chance to try it yet.
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Old 11-26-2018, 07:30 AM
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No problem trolling for wahoo last week at 9kts with haywire twist. Caught a nice hoo as well as a mahi on the Nomad.
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Old 12-20-2018, 03:40 PM
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Checkout the new video Nomad just released showing to to rig the new GEN 2 DTX Minnows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQta...ature=youtu.be
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Old 12-20-2018, 07:08 PM
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Going to try the 49 strand with the nomad. Bass pro has malin trident 49 strand 175 lb. Anyone know what kind of crimp and size to use for this cable?
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Old 01-21-2019, 07:40 AM
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I would imagine the diameters are the same or pretty close. I use American fishing wire for my leaders for nomads and also for my meat rigs with ballyhoo and ilanders. I sometimes use 49 strand 275lb cable and sometimes 175lb cable. American fishing wire tells you on the package which size of their crimps to use. For 175lb cable you want American fishing wire double barrel crimp size 4F8 for their 275lb cable you want crimp size 7F8. I have never had an issue with American fishing wire cables or crimps. I also have some malin 49 strand cable that is 480lb that I use for high speed leaders and connecting the two hooks in double hook wahoo rigs to each other. Just make sure you use copper crimps so you don't have galvanic reaction issues. Hope this helps. Good luck and tight lines.
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Old 01-21-2019, 07:50 AM
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Pelagic Hunter. Your upgrades look nice. I use the spro swivel with a stainless steel hook on the tail. I add another split ring to connect it to the swivel. I don't swap out the first or lead hook because the added length of the swivel will allow it to be able to come over the top and foul the lure. Just IMHO. Please let us know how it's working for you and how you a rigging your leader. Can I ask why you chose to go the extra distance to go with welded rings rather than split rings?
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:16 AM
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Can i switch to trebles ?
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Old 01-23-2019, 02:52 PM
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Fishing neighbor. I haven't ordered the trolling harness from melton tackle. I have made my own version using 175lb and 275lb 49 strand American fishing wire brown stainless steel cable with a bill fisher swivel at one end and an American fishing wire stainless steel ball bearing snap swivel at the end to clip to the nomad dtx. You can make your own and make them any length you desire. This allows you the option of swapping out different size nomads or different colors as opposed to just crimping the cable directly to the nomad. Both ways work fine in my experience.
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Old 01-23-2019, 03:05 PM
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Ebert. Take a look at some of the prior posts on rigging the Nomads. I am not a fan of treble hooks. Treble hooks are more prone to straighten out on you under a heavy load. They are also more dangerous and stick to everything including the fisherman. If you are targeting deep water, gulf stream pelagics like wahoo and tuna, I'd stick to single hooks designed for big game fish. Pelagic hunter has a nice way of rigging with the swivels and the 9/0 owner hooks. I swapped out the trebles on my rappala xraps with the same owner hooks and some owner split rings and they work well and can handle large game fish. I think the Nomads are better built and tougher with toothy predators than the xraps. I swapped out the tail hooks on my nomads with swivels and an additional split ring and some stainless steel 9/0 hooks but left the original bkk on the lead hook. Me personally, I like the swivel on the tail hook but prefer to stick to a single hook without the swivel on the first or lead hook because the swivel can allow the hook to swing up on top of the lure and foul it. If the bkk hook fails on the lead hook in the future, then I will swap it out with an owner 9/0 without the swivel.
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[QUOTE=Hoo Hunter;12175748]Ebert. Take a look at some of the prior posts on rigging the Nomads. I am not a fan of treble hooks. Treble hooks are more prone to straighten out on you under a heavy load. They are also more dangerous and stick to everything including the fisherman. If you are targeting deep water, gulf stream pelagics like wahoo and tuna, I'd stick to single hooks designed for big game fish. Pelagic hunter has a nice way of rigging with the swivels and the 9/0 owner hooks. I swapped out the trebles on my rappala xraps with the same owner hooks and some owner split rings and they work well and can handle large game fish. I think the Nomads are better built and tougher with toothy predators than the xraps. I swapped out the tail hooks on my nomads with swivels and an additional split ring and some stainless steel 9/0 hooks but left the original bkk on the lead hook. Me personally, I like the swivel on the tail hook but prefer to stick to a single hook without the swivel on the first or lead hook because the swivel can allow the hook to swing up on top of the lure and foul it. If the bkk hook fails on the lead hook in the future, then I will swap it out with an owner 9/0 without the swivel.[/QUOTi re read and found my awnser! I will put a treb on the back. They can or will be a pain. But they sure like to stick to thingsE]. Thanks
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Old 01-25-2019, 08:42 AM
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Have any of you guys trolled the Nomad Madscad? If so, what has been your experience with it for wahoo or other pelagics?
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Old 01-26-2019, 09:56 AM
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have two of the roughwaters waiting on hooks
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Old 01-30-2019, 05:55 AM
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Has anyone run one at the end of a daisy chain?
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Old 01-30-2019, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ebert View Post
Has anyone run one at the end of a daisy chain?
You serious ?
That would be a sight to see... A Madscad might work if far enough behind the daisy chain, but a DTX or any large lipped plug is going to drag the chain under and create all sorts of shenanigans.
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Has anyone run one at the end of a daisy chain?

this would be a terrible idea
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Been swapping a few Facebook messages with Damon Olson from Nomad in discussion about issues with my DTX 165 not swimming right, breaking single strand wire, etc.

Have to say that from my experience, he is a top notch gent who stands behind his product and is committed to making sure his customers are as happy as possible.

My impressions of the DTX165 that I bought and ran on several different leader setups in the attempt to get it to swim right, stay in the water and catch fish were far from favorable. Eventually I resorted to removing the split ring and rigging it with a 6ft piece of single strand #10 wire direct to the tow point of the lure. This helped (but did not fix) the swimming issue. However, it resulted in the lure very quickly (maybe 20 minutes) wearing through the haywire twist loop of the leader and bye bye expensive plug !

Damon has advised me that some of the 165mm size DTX Gen 2 had an issue with water getting into the lure and throwing the balance off. A situation that no amount of leader setup changes or tuning will alleviate. To his eternal credit, he offered to send me a new 200mm size DTX to replace my lost 165mm. Top notch as I say !!!

The lures certainly are beautiful and I really want them to be effective as I have a weakness for pretty plugs and have an extensive collection of them.

I'm going to rig the 200mm DTX exactly as Damon suggests and run it. Will report back on if it swims well and stays in the water at 8-10 knots. We don't troll any faster than that here in Barbados as the seas are usually too rough, but I might send it back one day on the sheltered west coast of the island and push the throttles up until it blows out then report what speed that happens at.

Kudos again to Damon for taking the time to address my issue like a gentleman, no butt hurt or pissing match involved :-)
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the reason i chose welded rings over split rings was bc the split rings wouldn't let the spro swivel move free around the ring bc of the thickness of the ring . with a 12 gauge ring the spro swivel moves freely, this was done hopefully to avoid any hook pulls if the fish does some crazy side to side runs. not sure why nomad won't rig the dtx w spro swivels. they rig directly to the lure.

marauder and yozuri has the spro swivels.
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Originally Posted by Flying Bajan View Post
You serious ?
That would be a sight to see... A Madscad might work if far enough behind the daisy chain, but a DTX or any large lipped plug is going to drag the chain under and create all sorts of shenanigans.
X2. The purpose of a DTX or deep diving plug is to get your bait down deep. Putting a daisy chain in front of a deep diving plug will take away from that. One would do better pulling the daisy chain on a separate line above the deep diver or in front of a Mascad but not with the madscad or diver attached to it. IMO
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Originally Posted by PelagicHunter View Post
the reason i chose welded rings over split rings was bc the split rings wouldn't let the spro swivel move free around the ring bc of the thickness of the ring . with a 12 gauge ring the spro swivel moves freely, this was done hopefully to avoid any hook pulls if the fish does some crazy side to side runs. not sure why nomad won't rig the dtx w spro swivels. they rig directly to the lure.

marauder and yozuri has the spro swivels.

I have requested this change to the Nomad lures
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Originally Posted by evanP220 View Post
this would be a terrible idea
I have used an X wrap behind an umbrella Rig with pretty good success just thinking along those lines you know the big bait chasing the small bait kind of thing?
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