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Old 09-30-2018, 06:48 AM
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I am new to the forum and a weekend fisherman. I bought some Nomad dtx in size 140 160 and 200. I have only had the chance to get out to the deep blue water once with them. I had two off the transom about 30 yards back. One purple phantom and hot pink mackerel in size 200. Something hit the purple but it didn't hook up. The wahoo of that day were on the purple and black ilanders 4oz double hook rigged. I've been an ilander and ballyhoo guy when pursuing wahoo but from now on will have at least one DTX off the transom go down deep. They have great action. I rig my dtx minnows with about 5 feet of AFW 175 and 275lb cable double crimped at both ends. At the end where the minnow is located, I use a stainless steel Jinkai spring chaff protector that I got at tackle direct, so the cable is enclosed in it and not subjected to the split ring. The idea of adding a solid ring is a good idea. They wiggle a lot when in the water which may tax a cable wire or mono. I would use some kind of protector that the end where the minnow is located no matter what leader material you prefer. The opposite end I have the cable crimped to 250lb swivel with no protector. I also have some pre rigged cables the same way but crimped to a ball bearing snap swivel that I can easily swap out different minnows of different size colors etc with the Jinkai spring protector around the cable that is crimped to the ball bearing snap swivel. I don't like treble hooks. I have swapped out the tail hook of the minnows and added a spro heavy swivel and an owner 10 or 11 split ring and a different tail hook with more of a barb. I use a 9/0 or 10/0 on the dtx 200 and an 8/0 on the 160's. I have not done the same with the first hook because adding the same to the belly hook will add distance to it and may allow the belly hook to extend up on top of the minnow and foul the lure. There is a guy that recommended the spro heavy swivels in the forum. Its a great idea that works. WIth the swivel you can use any hook that you want. I put some of the 140's and 160's in the water yesterday for some nearshore king mackerel fishing rigged the way I mentioned above. The king mackerel like them and I got my limit of them in the first hour fishing AR 315 and 320 and got one barracuda at AR 320. The colors used yesterday were black pink mackerel and sardine. Got King mack on both colors and both sizes of 140 and 160. The cuda hit the sardine in size 140. I fish off of an aquasport 215 DC
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Originally Posted by Hoo Hunter View Post
I am new to the forum and a weekend fisherman. I bought some Nomad dtx in size 140 160 and 200. I have only had the chance to get out to the deep blue water once with them. I had two off the transom about 30 yards back. One purple phantom and hot pink mackerel in size 200. Something hit the purple but it didn't hook up. The wahoo of that day were on the purple and black ilanders 4oz double hook rigged. I've been an ilander and ballyhoo guy when pursuing wahoo but from now on will have at least one DTX off the transom go down deep. They have great action. I rig my dtx minnows with about 5 feet of AFW 175 and 275lb cable double crimped at both ends. At the end where the minnow is located, I use a stainless steel Jinkai spring chaff protector that I got at tackle direct, so the cable is enclosed in it and not subjected to the split ring. The idea of adding a solid ring is a good idea. They wiggle a lot when in the water which may tax a cable wire or mono. I would use some kind of protector that the end where the minnow is located no matter what leader material you prefer. The opposite end I have the cable crimped to 250lb swivel with no protector. I also have some pre rigged cables the same way but crimped to a ball bearing snap swivel that I can easily swap out different minnows of different size colors etc with the Jinkai spring protector around the cable that is crimped to the ball bearing snap swivel. I don't like treble hooks. I have swapped out the tail hook of the minnows and added a spro heavy swivel and an owner 10 or 11 split ring and a different tail hook with more of a barb. I use a 9/0 or 10/0 on the dtx 200 and an 8/0 on the 160's. I have not done the same with the first hook because adding the same to the belly hook will add distance to it and may allow the belly hook to extend up on top of the minnow and foul the lure. There is a guy that recommended the spro heavy swivels in the forum. Its a great idea that works. WIth the swivel you can use any hook that you want. I put some of the 140's and 160's in the water yesterday for some nearshore king mackerel fishing rigged the way I mentioned above. The king mackerel like them and I got my limit of them in the first hour fishing AR 315 and 320 and got one barracuda at AR 320. The colors used yesterday were black pink mackerel and sardine. Got King mack on both colors and both sizes of 140 and 160. The cuda hit the sardine in size 140. I fish off of an aquasport 215 DC
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Old 10-07-2018, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoo Hunter View Post
I am new to the forum and a weekend fisherman. I bought some Nomad dtx in size 140 160 and 200. I have only had the chance to get out to the deep blue water once with them. I had two off the transom about 30 yards back. One purple phantom and hot pink mackerel in size 200. Something hit the purple but it didn't hook up. The wahoo of that day were on the purple and black ilanders 4oz double hook rigged. I've been an ilander and ballyhoo guy when pursuing wahoo but from now on will have at least one DTX off the transom go down deep. They have great action. I rig my dtx minnows with about 5 feet of AFW 175 and 275lb cable double crimped at both ends. At the end where the minnow is located, I use a stainless steel Jinkai spring chaff protector that I got at tackle direct, so the cable is enclosed in it and not subjected to the split ring. The idea of adding a solid ring is a good idea. They wiggle a lot when in the water which may tax a cable wire or mono. I would use some kind of protector that the end where the minnow is located no matter what leader material you prefer. The opposite end I have the cable crimped to 250lb swivel with no protector. I also have some pre rigged cables the same way but crimped to a ball bearing snap swivel that I can easily swap out different minnows of different size colors etc with the Jinkai spring protector around the cable that is crimped to the ball bearing snap swivel. I don't like treble hooks. I have swapped out the tail hook of the minnows and added a spro heavy swivel and an owner 10 or 11 split ring and a different tail hook with more of a barb. I use a 9/0 or 10/0 on the dtx 200 and an 8/0 on the 160's. I have not done the same with the first hook because adding the same to the belly hook will add distance to it and may allow the belly hook to extend up on top of the minnow and foul the lure. There is a guy that recommended the spro heavy swivels in the forum. Its a great idea that works. WIth the swivel you can use any hook that you want. I put some of the 140's and 160's in the water yesterday for some nearshore king mackerel fishing rigged the way I mentioned above. The king mackerel like them and I got my limit of them in the first hour fishing AR 315 and 320 and got one barracuda at AR 320. The colors used yesterday were black pink mackerel and sardine. Got King mack on both colors and both sizes of 140 and 160. The cuda hit the sardine in size 140. I fish off of an aquasport 215 DC

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I've got 6 of these. All from Striker Tackle. Have not got a wahoo yet but trolling the grass line the mahi love them.
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They work. We pulled a few of these last winter here in Texas at our wahoo grounds and did well. They held up to the torture as well
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I've got 6 of these. All from Striker Tackle. Have not got a wahoo yet but trolling the grass line the mahi love them.

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Old 11-04-2018, 09:24 AM
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Just got my 165 and 200 from Striker. Are you all using chaff tubes at the crimp/loop at the split ring when rigging mono or fluoro leader?

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Went out this morning for a little Whaoo trolling with my Nomads but it didn't go so well

I was using two rods both rigged the same as shown in the 1st picture, factory split ring with a owner solid ring tied to 80lb fluro leader. About 10 minutes into the troll both lures swimming great and tracking strait then the port rod stops swimming so I reel it in and WTF.

I knew I was risking a bite off but I didn't expect what I found when I reeled it in 2nd picture. I know what happened but how and has anyone else had this happen? What's the fix?
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metal to metal , somethings going to wear
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Old 11-16-2018, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Coral Head View Post
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Went out this morning for a little Whaoo trolling with my Nomads but it didn't go so well

I was using two rods both rigged the same as shown in the 1st picture, factory split ring with a owner solid ring tied to 80lb fluro leader. About 10 minutes into the troll both lures swimming great and tracking strait then the port rod stops swimming so I reel it in and WTF.

I knew I was risking a bite off but I didn't expect what I found when I reeled it in 2nd picture. I know what happened but how and has anyone else had this happen? What's the fix?
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That sux! The fix is to crimp with some thin chafe gear.
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But it looks like the factory installed split ring wore through the attachment point on the lure? And it happened in rather short order. That's a problem...
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Does haywire twist to the split ring still work effectively as in the Gen 1 videos?
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Guys, the haywire twist to split ring works fine. The split ring issue above i can say with 99.9% certainty that it did not wear through the metal plate. Highly unlikely. Most likely something weird happened with the split ring and it came off, however i can say i've never seen this before. Weird things do happen occasionally, but it is most likely that the split ring found some crazy weird way to come off the metal plate.
Some people have asked why we do not fit a solid ring to the metal plate. The simple answer is difficulty in manufacturing and the associated cost. The metal plate needs to be perfectly flat for the autotune system to work and if we weld a metal ring onto the front of the metal plate there is a risk the heat of the welding may deform the metal plate and twist it slightly when the ring is welded on. The other issue is using a welded ring in the first place. The QC on the welding of the ring needs to be perfect or fish will be lost to issues with welded rings. The split ring is the best comprimise and we have yet to see any real failures. The DTX minnows have landed 650lb blue marlin, 280lb yellowfin and 250lb bluefin tuna so far on standard rigging without a problem. Hope that info helps some.
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How about saying. (It looks like a factory defect and we will help this customer out)
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How about saying. (It looks like a factory defect and we will help this customer out)
we have a standing offer on this forum for customers to contact us with any issues and we will always assist. The reality is that the split ring was likely opened when the aolidnring was applied and it worked its way off. Unlikely a factory defect but we are happy to assist regardless.
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I can't say it was a factory defect but I know the split was not engaged on the anchor point when I deployed it, so how it worked lose I don't know. But I like the Nomad products so I purchased a replacement and will give it another try as soon as the weather allows, wish me luck!!!
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they troll these nomads all day long on the west coast long range boats and that split ring does not wear away at the other stainless harness..... my guess is somehow, the splitring worked its way loose.
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Has anyone used these Nomad DTX Minnows with a trolling harness? https://www.meltontackle.com/trolling-harness.html I have not been able to fish mine yet. Just wondering if the trolling harness is okay for a certain speed range or if performance is an issue at any speed?
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here are some upgrades I've made to my dtx minnows. ive welded a 12 gauge ring to the front, and ive replaced both hooks with spro swivels and upgrade owner 9/0 hooks all welded to a 12 gauge stainless steel ring.


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