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Old 09-09-2018, 06:25 PM
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This is how I tie an FG knot but I add a twist by heating the end of the mono like in the second video. The trick is to heat the line end when you do the cut but not burn your fingers.

I know the FG is supposed to lock onto the line itself but if it were to slide a little it hits the expanded end saving a full let off and letting the knot tighten.


X knot with I don't like as much as the FG except the burning the end of the mono.
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I just had an FG knot slipping thread... if the knot slips, its not tight enough..I discovered its pretty much as simple as that!
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Sorry I missed that topic but exactly my point. You can tighten as tight as you think is safe, meaning no weaking or breaking. Some of these mono's are harder and smore slick. The melted end gives you a slight edge.
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I have found that with all knots using braid if you double the braid I have never had one slip. I used to us the FG but started last season with a double nail knot. Again double the braid. Seems to go thru the guides easier.
Using the nail knot tool you tie a nail knot in each direction. Braid around leader for one and leader around braid for the other. Three to four turns on each.
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I have some rigs with a bimini twist on the main braid, to a no name knot for the leader. Yet to fail.
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I find that if you properly test and it passes the FG knot will not be your point of failure. It is important to test and lock the knot before you trim the Mono. I had a few tackle failures yesterday with some reef donkeys. 40lb floro failed but the FG to the Floro was still there I was able to tie on a new Jig and go right back at them, Just a foot or 2 less leader
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Problem with the FG knot is what was left out of the last 5 seconds of that video with 1-2mm of mono sticking out the other end. That's not clean and it's what comes back in through the guides. Why I was once a believe and now a naysayer. Can try to tie a bunch of half hitches to cover the stub and make it cleaner but they eventually let it pop through IMO.
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Originally Posted by JoseG View Post
I have some rigs with a bimini twist on the main braid, to a no name knot for the leader. Yet to fail.
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I can tie the FG, but just don't trust it mechanically. The "top" of the knot gets no support from the "lower" wraps, which is counter to almost all other knots.
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Originally Posted by swellhunter View Post
Problem with the FG knot is what was left out of the last 5 seconds of that video with 1-2mm of mono sticking out the other end. That's not clean and it's what comes back in through the guides. Why I was once a believe and now a naysayer. Can try to tie a bunch of half hitches to cover the stub and make it cleaner but they eventually let it pop through IMO.
use a nail clipper to cut as close as possible to the braid.
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Originally Posted by mike1010 View Post
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I can tie the FG, but just don't trust it mechanically. The "top" of the knot gets no support from the "lower" wraps, which is counter to almost all other knots.
I like the albright as well, and I can tie that on a rocking boat, I find it more smoother than the FG knot. I do have FG knot in my wahoo setups with 80 mono.
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Old 09-11-2018, 08:53 AM
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FG knot overrated and takes entirely too long to tie. I want to tie my knots in 20 seconds or less and be able to do it with the boat rocking in 3-5ft seas.
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Originally Posted by JoseG View Post
I have some rigs with a bimini twist on the main braid, to a no name knot for the leader. Yet to fail.
AKA Reverse Albright, Worm Knot, Bristol Knot, etc. This knot doesn't get the love it should, stronger than the FG IME and you can tie it on a rocking boat.
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The FG knot will usually hold firm and is a great knot, but it is not a 100% knot. I tested some extreme cases -- like 10 lb Spiderwire to 15 lb mono for snapper fishing -- where the braid would slip off even when I burned a mushroom onto the end of the mono. The eventual solution was to double the mono so the braid had more to bite into.
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I have found the FG knot to work great, but only when the mono is a bit thicker than the braid. With thinner mono, it'll slip. With thinner mono, clearance of the guides isn't an issue, so use the tried and true knots like the alberto, albright, or even the uni to uni. For my purposes, I start using the FG above 40lbs mono.
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Try this version.

https://www.onthewater.com/video/vid...dified-fg-knot
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I only use it to connect the 100# braid to my long mono leader and still be able to get through the guides. It's way easier to handle the fish on big leader than being shreaded by braid.
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Originally Posted by dove72 View Post
The FG knot will usually hold firm and is a great knot, but it is not a 100% knot. I tested some extreme cases -- like 10 lb Spiderwire to 15 lb mono for snapper fishing -- where the braid would slip off even when I burned a mushroom onto the end of the mono. The eventual solution was to double the mono so the braid had more to bite into.
For light lines like these I've always used a double uni knot...never failed. For heavy mono its just too big of a knot to get through the guides easily.
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Originally Posted by johnb48 View Post
For light lines like these I've always used a double uni knot...never failed. For heavy mono its just too big of a knot to get through the guides easily.
Then you've never tested it. Every knot fails. I agree it's too big for larger mono. FG is the way to go.

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Then you've never tested it. Every knot fails. I agree it's too big for larger mono. FG is the way to go.
I didn't mean it will never fail...but it has never failed on me. I agree all knots will eventually fail.
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The fg sucks for light applications and unless you are casting is a waste. A direct splice or my preference of a Bristol to Bimini is everything needed for trolling or jigging. For light applications casting I still stand by the simple red Phillips knot.

If your having issues with the FG in greater than 50# line/leader combos then your simply tying it wrong. From day one tying the knot I have burned the mono end, have always brought the half hitches up to it AFTER stretching the knot under load and finish with continued half hitches on the braid about the same length as the knot on the mono. I also use 24 weaves, or 12 pairs, on the knot.

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