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Daiwa SEABORG 1200MJ??? Anyone use it yet???

Old 07-01-2018, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Nickdee View Post
I guessing they did not just made it for you. They must of sold more than 1
Considering that Daiwa just started selling these reels cp10415's response was spot on. Do you even remember what your post said? Comprehension skills are important when trying to navigate the interweb.
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Old 07-01-2018, 06:49 PM
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No luck on the swords today with the reel. Had some interest from a couple of deep sea critters that sure did a good imitation of swordfish. But, no hook ups.

The reel did great. This thing has some serious yank to it. It fiddled with ten pound weights all day long and only slowed down when I had stuck the weight in the mud waaaay deep. Hauled the ten pounds up from 1800 feet at high speed no problem.
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Old 07-07-2018, 10:15 PM
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Any updates of people actually catching fish?
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Old 07-08-2018, 11:52 AM
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Nope, not me. I dragged up some tilefish but that isn't much of a challenge. I had to keep slowing it down as I was afraid I was going to spin them off.

When I was using it sword fishing with the ten pound weights, I felt the cowling after it had dragged the weight up with close to 2000 feet of line out. It was not hot at all. And, this was on a day in the low 90's with no wind at all to cool it (or us!) down. I was expecting some heat, but it didn't feel any hotter than anything else on the boat.
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Old 07-15-2018, 09:12 PM
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Okay. The moment you guys were waiting for. This weekend the reel was tried and put to the test about as much as you can. Took a quick day trip across the pond to the Bahamas. Ended up horsing 8-10 lb yellow eyes, queens, mystics, silkys, and other fish all day long. The reel easily brought up 40 fish as the other reel did the same. Without stopping a beat. And that includes a full stringer of 4 yellow eye snapper in the 5-10 lb range. Nice fish. Didn’t even hesitate. And a 10 lb lead also.
So it passed that test with flying colors. The reel is super easy to use just like the tanacom. The low speed is a very low speed high torque motor. Very nice. The high speed is very fast but works great midrange also.
Now.......
we loaded up the coolers and headed back across the pond home. On the way back to Miami. I said let’s do a drop...
and low and behold one drop produced one swordfish. No lp this time. The Megatwin was the go to rod here. Using a 12 lb lead. Reeling up a 100 lb fish in approximately 45 minutes. The fight wasn’t long. We were able to get it gaffed on only the 2nd rise to the surface. The reels low gear moved the fish through the thermoclines well. And never stalled. Which is something I had problems with on the beast master. The reels low gear is the diffference making merry here for sure. Hooked the fish with about 28-30 lb of drag and drove the hook well. And caught the fish all the way up to the surface well. I’m very impressed with the reel for sure.
I am going to sell my 50wides and just buy another o these reels because it is about the same size and class as those reels with grad drag and a sturdy hand crank. This reel can handle the Bahamas yellowfins too in my opinion. I intend on testing that theory out also in the next could upcoming weeks.
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Old 07-16-2018, 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by nnavarro@somersetacademy. View Post
Okay. The moment you guys were waiting for. This weekend the reel was tried and put to the test about as much as you can. Took a quick day trip across the pond to the Bahamas. Ended up horsing 8-10 lb yellow eyes, queens, mystics, silkys, and other fish all day long. The reel easily brought up 40 fish as the other reel did the same. Without stopping a beat. And that includes a full stringer of 4 yellow eye snapper in the 5-10 lb range. Nice fish. Didn’t even hesitate. And a 10 lb lead also.
So it passed that test with flying colors. The reel is super easy to use just like the tanacom. The low speed is a very low speed high torque motor. Very nice. The high speed is very fast but works great midrange also.
Now.......
we loaded up the coolers and headed back across the pond home. On the way back to Miami. I said let’s do a drop...
and low and behold one drop produced one swordfish. No lp this time. The Megatwin was the go to rod here. Using a 12 lb lead. Reeling up a 100 lb fish in approximately 45 minutes. The fight wasn’t long. We were able to get it gaffed on only the 2nd rise to the surface. The reels low gear moved the fish through the thermoclines well. And never stalled. Which is something I had problems with on the beast master. The reels low gear is the diffference making merry here for sure. Hooked the fish with about 28-30 lb of drag and drove the hook well. And caught the fish all the way up to the surface well. I’m very impressed with the reel for sure.
I am going to sell my 50wides and just buy another o these reels because it is about the same size and class as those reels with grad drag and a sturdy hand crank. This reel can handle the Bahamas yellowfins too in my opinion. I intend on testing that theory out also in the next could upcoming weeks.
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Thank You for the report, I'm looking at buyiing 1200J version which is without the low gear and much cheaper reel with the same motor.
I'm of the opinion that since I'm going to set the drag at 26lb, I only need the reel to be able to wind at not more than 26lb of force, cos if the fish is pulling at over 26lb of force, no mater how strong/powerful you wind, the drag will slip.
I think a easier test for the reel on the motor is to load 3x12 lb=36lb lead and see if it could retrieve it non-stop from 2000 ft.
Just my 2 cents
On 2nd thought, the low gear may be actually useful:
the reel only produce the max hoisting power when at full throtle, (when I tried to dead lift 12kg, my beastmaster and tanacom are able to lift only at max throtle, back off the lever a little will cause the reel to stall in lifting the 12kg weight).
and Thus without low gear, the force required to reel in the fish is higher compared to at low speed. which in turn will cause the higher speed reel unable to reel in while low gear can under same circumstances.
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Old 07-16-2018, 01:06 PM
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Thanks for the report!! It is good to hear from someone with some previous experience with other reels so you can compare it to them. I am waiting on a weather window to give it another go off of the outer banks.
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Old 07-16-2018, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by nnavarro@somersetacademy. View Post
Okay. The moment you guys were waiting for. This weekend the reel was tried and put to the test about as much as you can. Took a quick day trip across the pond to the Bahamas. Ended up horsing 8-10 lb yellow eyes, queens, mystics, silkys, and other fish all day long. The reel easily brought up 40 fish as the other reel did the same. Without stopping a beat. And that includes a full stringer of 4 yellow eye snapper in the 5-10 lb range. Nice fish. Didnít even hesitate. And a 10 lb lead also.
So it passed that test with flying colors. The reel is super easy to use just like the tanacom. The low speed is a very low speed high torque motor. Very nice. The high speed is very fast but works great midrange also.
Now.......
we loaded up the coolers and headed back across the pond home. On the way back to Miami. I said letís do a drop...
and low and behold one drop produced one swordfish. No lp this time. The Megatwin was the go to rod here. Using a 12 lb lead. Reeling up a 100 lb fish in approximately 45 minutes. The fight wasnít long. We were able to get it gaffed on only the 2nd rise to the surface. The reels low gear moved the fish through the thermoclines well. And never stalled. Which is something I had problems with on the beast master. The reels low gear is the diffference making merry here for sure. Hooked the fish with about 28-30 lb of drag and drove the hook well. And caught the fish all the way up to the surface well. Iím very impressed with the reel for sure.
I am going to sell my 50wides and just buy another o these reels because it is about the same size and class as those reels with grad drag and a sturdy hand crank. This reel can handle the Bahamas yellowfins too in my opinion. I intend on testing that theory out also in the next could upcoming weeks.
Stay tunes
Great feedback on these reels. How hot did the motor/reel get with the 100lb fish on it? If I remember right you have had the Daiwa 3000's and the LP's. What is your recommendation based on what you no so far for this review vs. other electrics stack ranked? What rod do you keep it on that works well for deep dropping and for swording?
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Old 07-20-2018, 01:40 PM
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First thing first. Iím sorry for the tackle stores around. And I did not want to do this. But you can get this reel on digitaka.com for $1250. Thatís where I purchased this reel. It comes in Japanese but switched language to English very easy. And boom ready to go. For that price I would never question the single speed option... no offense. I used the low gear to get that fish through the thermoclines. I personally would not buy the regular single speed of this reel. I feel like you just have an upgraded tanacom a little stronger. Especially at the price I just gave you and the reel ships to your door in 2-3 business days. Best part.
Secondly I have 2 lp, have owned two hooker electric sold them , and owned a mp3000 that I sold. Had 2 tanacoms and had the old Megatwin. This reel is strong. And really fast on high gear. The low gear is really slow. Torque is real. The mp3000 is a reliable reel that is slow but no need to come up fast when you have fish on. The reels high speed was about 300 ft faster than the lp. And this reels low speed was about 400 ft slower than the lp. To give you a perspective. It deep dropped along side the lp all day. The reel never got hot dropping in 1200 ft all day.. this reel is definately the best option at the lower budget 100% no question in my mind. I actually am selling my 50 wide tiagra reels that I rarely use to buy another one of these reels... the hand crank is very sturdy and it is the size of a 50wides reel. So I will use it that way as well
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Old 07-20-2018, 03:25 PM
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Before y'all spend all of your lunch money.... give me a few more months.

I got to put my hands on a new Banax last week, it's going to be interesting to compare.
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Old 07-20-2018, 05:52 PM
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Well now!! Competition is usually good for the consumer. Looking forward to hearing more about this new entry!
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Old 07-20-2018, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Frigate Sales View Post
Before y'all spend all of your lunch money.... give me a few more months.

I got to put my hands on a new Banax last week, it's going to be interesting to compare.
Previously I saw 2 banax reel on our boat, but no more now. all switched to Daiwa or Miya Epoch CX-4 or 5

The last time I saw it on boat, the worm shaft worn and unable to level the braid line. Probably because the user didnt align the braid after line break and accidentally over reeled the line in.

From my friend's comment on the reel, the reel is not strong compared to daiwa and Miya.
My perception on the reel from their comment is that the reel might have problem with 12ib lead alone at 2000ft. but thats just my perception on the reel.
I can get the Banax Kaigen 1000 reel at $400 locally.
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Originally Posted by Frigate Sales View Post
Before y'all spend all of your lunch money.... give me a few more months.

I got to put my hands on a new Banax last week, it's going to be interesting to compare.
I hope to see competition from Banax but until it's on the market and can be purchased it doesn't exist. Went with Daiwa 1200-MJ's. Next step is to pair them with some rods and spool them with 80lb j-braid.
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Old 07-23-2018, 07:09 AM
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I am very proud of the mj1200. It did well the other weekend for me .. now... the reason why it is hard to get so much first hand experience with it is because a lot of the guys who sword have a lp or a hooker electric alreaady. And even though I purchased the mj1200. When you have both of those on the boat... your most likely not grabbing the mj1300 to do the job.. and when I say that it is no knock on the mj1200... when you have been out there and caught fish before. Usually what keeps you coming back is either the elusive 500+ lb fish. Or commercial guys money. But for me I have caught fish over 500lb so I didn’t mind taking the risk.. I have hooked 2 fish that the lp could not stop. Not with 65-70 lb braid Atleast. Both fish took me out to 5000 ft of line heading east. You never know when that fish is coming. We landed our biggest sword 105” x 70” out of Miami and countless 200-300-400 lb fish but I’m just trying to let you know why first hand experience may be hard to come by. I hope you guys get out there and whack some big swords soon with it. This reel has become my go to deep drop, and buoy rod for swording
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Old 08-05-2018, 07:49 AM
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Lol I guess no one fishes anymore. This thread died
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Old 08-07-2018, 06:59 PM
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I'm not dead yet!

Fished with it on Sunday. Sadly, it only cranked up a 10 lb weight repeatedly. No love from the swords. Then it did get to wind in a few tilefish and sea bass, but that ain't much of a test.
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Nothing exciting but I did catch some tiles and barrel fish and some rosey's on my 1200J. No test at all though.
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Old 08-09-2018, 12:26 PM
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Even though the daiwa 1200MJ is a darn good reel, I still won't trust it with a 200lb sword on the line .... it was already struggling a bit and the motor heating up with a 50# Warsaw on the line for 15 mins.
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A 50 lb Warsaw is a big fish #1. And #2 you fight those two fish totally different. Drag settings and the heat you put on the fish are much different. Warsaw you have to lay the heat on his or else your getting rocked. But hopefully someone can have some experience. Like I said the mj1200 isn’t my first choice. But it will do the job 100% in my opinion Fishing with it on multiple occasions. I’m excited to hook into a big eye tuna on the buoy rod with the mj1200... haha wishful thinking
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Originally Posted by cp10415 View Post
Even though the daiwa 1200MJ is a darn good reel, I still won't trust it with a 200lb sword on the line .... it was already struggling a bit and the motor heating up with a 50# Warsaw on the line for 15 mins.

How did you manage to fight a 50# Warsaw for 15 minuets? Iíve caught them to 250# and even that one didnít take 15 minutes.
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