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Frigate Sales 08-20-2019 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by F1Cracker (Post 12847684)


I hope you’ll excuse my confusion. In post #40 of this thread, hamma job implied that the Daiwa motor was brushless. It can get confusing when manufacturers’ reps start bashing competitor’s products with misinformation.

No problem at all - I can understand. I think Hamma works for LP.

Welcome to THT.




F1Cracker 08-21-2019 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by Frigate Sales (Post 12848086)

Welcome to THT.


Thanks for that.

So this is strange...

yesterday, after you said that the Daiwa doesn’t have a brushless motor, but before I responded, I sent the following email to Daiwa...

To: CSR <csr@daiwa.com>
Subject: Question about Dendoh reels

I have been unable to find this information online. Does either the MP3000 or the Seaborg 1200 MJ have a brushless motor?

Here’s their response...

The 24V MP3000 and all the Seaborg MJ models have brushless motors.


Casey Yoern
Customer Relationship Specialist / Photographer
Office (562) 375-6742
Mobile (310) 948-4313

Daiwa Corporation
11137 Warland Dr.
Cypress, CA 90630
(562)375-6800

arczr2 08-21-2019 04:32 PM

Got one love it getting another one next year selling the tanacoms.

maschked 08-23-2019 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by Coral Head (Post 11324458)
Just spooled mine up yesterday so no data yet.

I have owned or fished almost every electric out there and I have to say I'm very impressed with the quality of this reel. Can't wait for the wind to slack so I can get out and give it a try.

As for swording my impression so far is that it would be fully capable of getting the job done. IMO it would be a great choice for someone who is looking to sword 3-4 times a year, but if your looking to sword regularly then the reel we are not talking about in this thread would be a better choice.

In full transparency I do own an S-1200 as well that I currently use for swording, but I do plan on trying the 1200MJ for that role and maybe sell the LP who knows.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.the...f80c04d3c2.jpg

Where did you get that "rod"? How do you like it?

Coral Head 08-23-2019 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by maschked (Post 12858876)
Where did you get that "rod"? How do you like it?

Love the rod, Roys Electric Reels sells them.

Roys

tkhudgens 08-26-2019 10:56 AM

I've got one 1200MJ and love it so far. Will probably get a second.
I do have a question for other users though:
On my last trip I noticed that it wouldn't freespool quite as easily as it had been. Not sure if this was something I was doing wrong or if it was because I didn't have that much weight on it (only ~20 ounces because there was no current or wind drift.
Anyone have any thoughts? What is the best way to put it in freespool?

fly186 08-26-2019 12:12 PM

Make sure your freespool adjustment knob isn't cranked down all the way (knob on the left side of the reel). Back it off when using lighter weights.

Frigate Sales 09-10-2019 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by F1Cracker (Post 12850821)
Casey Yoern
Customer Relationship Specialist / Photographer

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.the...6fa084fa26.jpg
Daiwa 1200MJ motor shown above. Notice that the brush holder is crooked due to testing damage. Also, 2 wires going to the motor - brush less motor would require 3 wires minimum.
Yes, this was from the 2 speed version of the reel.
This reel was purchased new in May of this year.

Maybe they made a change recently, but it would require a completely new driver circuit as well.

I'm not trying to spread bad information, I am just stating what I have seen first hand. I have a feeling not many folks take these apart for fun.




arczr2 09-12-2019 02:55 AM


Originally Posted by Frigate Sales (Post 12917035)
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.the...6fa084fa26.jpg
Daiwa 1200MJ motor shown above. Notice that the brush holder is crooked due to testing damage. Also, 2 wires going to the motor - brush less motor would require 3 wires minimum.
Yes, this was from the 2 speed version of the reel.
This reel was purchased new in May of this year.

Maybe they made a change recently, but it would require a completely new driver circuit as well.

I'm not trying to spread bad information, I am just stating what I have seen first hand. I have a feeling not many folks take these apart for fun.


So I guess we should all just purchase banax reels instead and throw our 1700 dollar mj 1200s in the ocean lol.......

Frigate Sales 09-12-2019 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by arczr2 (Post 12921492)
So I guess we should all just purchase banax reels instead and throw our 1700 dollar mj 1200s in the ocean lol.......

Not at all. The 1200 is a good reel.

I am just trying to clarify that the motor is not brushless. The banax is not brushless either. The only reel on the market that is brushless is the beastmaster (to my knowledge.)

If someone is telling me I'm wrong, and I know the facts, I'm going to push back. Wouldn't you?





F1Cracker 09-12-2019 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by Frigate Sales (Post 12921854)

If someone is telling me I'm wrong, and I know the facts, I'm going to push back. Wouldn't you?

I was not telling you that you are wrong, I was only trying to decipher conflicting information. Daiwa, and in all fairness Shimano too, has had representatives misrepresent the materials in their reels in the past. I doubt it was done intentionally, however you never know.

I decided to follow up with our friend Casey.

Hi Casey,


I’m still unsure about whether the Seaborg 1200 MJ is equipped with a brushless motor. Someone has supplied me with this picture, which is being represented as a photo of a motor from the reel in question after catastrophic failure.

(A copy of your picture was here)

You can see in the picture that the mount for the brush is twisted. Obviously, a brushless motor won’t have brush mounts. Is this actually the motor for the 1200 MJ?

Also, the motor says Made in China on it. I was under the impression that the Seaborg reels are made in Japan. Am I mistaken?

Thank you for all your time,

Maybe Casey will send a photo of a Seaborg 1200 with a Japanese made brushless motor in it, along with an explanation. She is a photographer after all.

I will post the response when it comes.

Scttboom 09-23-2019 05:52 PM

WOW long old thread I found here and well I found it at the right time. I own a charter fishing company in VA and am in search of new electric reels and was planning to pick up a few Beastmaster 9k's but I guess their new beastmaster won't be released until November, so I have been holding off, but now after finding this thread I am now leaning towards the Daiwa, thats until I saw Banax has a new reel out so now the Banax is perking my eyes up. I shot Banax an email. I will see if they respond in a fashionable time as I am need of a few new reels as the Tanacom 1K's I will no longer be buying

We occasionally will be swording but lots of dropping 350-800

jerekite 10-15-2019 09:34 AM

not happy with it
 
Hey guys,

First post on the forum after spending a lot of time reading countless posts about fishing and info for my boat :)

That thread actually got me to purchase the seaboard 1200MJ and I am really disappointed by it and the Daiwa service. ( I never post about slow service or bad quality products but considering the amount spent on this I thought it would be best to let people know about my experience with this electric reel).

I spent over 1500 $ on this reel and it was my first ever expensive fishing purchase.

It worked well while it worked but after using it a little over 10 times ( and taking extremely good care of it, no one else than me allowed to handle it, cleaned every day etc)
It completely stopped working and started making some very strange noise while reeling in.

I sent it back to Daiwa in the USA.
Unfortunately they mentioned that some other parts got damage during the shipment ( which I found strange as the box seemed fine in the pictures they sent) and I had to spend another 150 us$ or more to replace these parts.

They told me the motor transmission gear needs to be replaced and they will cover it under warranty.
Unfortunately the reel has been with them for over a month now and they need an additional month because they don' t have the part.

I tried to ask for a way to help me out considering the money spent and how fast it broke, maybe a discount on the part they wanted to charge me but no luck.

I am super disappointed that this reel broke after so few time of light usage and the fact that they need 2 months to get the part to fix it.

With my experience I wouldn't recommend buying it for the bad reliability and slow and not so cool service.

On another note, I also purchases the Daiwa SAG66XXHR-DD Saltiga G Kite Deep Drop Rod, 6'6" on Amazon.
and as my second ever Daiwa purchase i was super disappointed to find that it broke in half where the rod is glued to the base after less than 10 usage without catching any fish on it yet !!!
The glue seemed to have just come off.

I couldn't send it back as I am in the Caribbean at the moment and shipping back would have cost me more than anything.
so I glued it back with epoxy.

Anyway as you can see and it maybe an isolated case, I had two issues with both Daiwa products.

So with my own personal experience in ti, I wouldn't recommend this reel at all.








aoksales 10-15-2019 09:55 AM

I have two them so far so good - caught several snowies and 2 swordss
This one just a few days ago.
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https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.the...5287aa1786.jpg
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not huge but 150+ lbs
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https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.the...9cd5fcf99b.jpg

Capt. Fred 10-15-2019 04:47 PM

Nice work on the swords!!

ksc 10-16-2019 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by hamma job (Post 11447014)
If you daytime swordfish you will catch thresher sharks and they will test everything you have tackle wise. 30lbs won't budge one.

here it is pretty big one!



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