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on deck 03-18-2019 03:34 PM

Ahhhhhh.....finally! Well done cappy!

Capt. Fred 03-18-2019 05:59 PM

Right-O!! Well done indeed.

nnavarro@somersetacademy. 03-19-2019 05:20 AM

If you want to see one. MunstersFishing on Instagram out of Islamorada has a video of his fish caught on it and he has caught multiple swords on it. But he has a video with the fish on there

gerg 03-19-2019 11:53 AM

Old thread, but just pointing out that the "rod" in the OP's first post would be considered a bandit reel under the regs, and you would need a commercial permit to use it.

It would be considered fixed to the boat (you can't hold it and fight a fish).

So if the regs only permit rod, reel, and handline as acceptable gear types for rec, you couldn't use it.

Just sayin.....

Coral Head 03-20-2019 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by gerg (Post 12350853)
Old thread, but just pointing out that the "rod" in the OP's first post would be considered a bandit reel under the regs, and you would need a commercial permit to use it.

It would be considered fixed to the boat (you can't hold it and fight a fish).

So if the regs only permit rod, reel, and handline as acceptable gear types for rec, you couldn't use it.

Just sayin.....


Not hear in Florida, no such regulation on rod use.

I think I would contact the current administration and get it changed, he is big on deregulation. :grin:

gerg 03-20-2019 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by Coral Head (Post 12353101)
Not hear in Florida, no such regulation on rod use.

I think I would contact the current administration and get it changed, he is big on deregulation. :grin:

It's a federal reg that applies if you have an hms permit (which is the case for swordfish).

It really doesn't matter that you are in state waters, it's a gear limit that applies to your permit.

You can ignore it of course. But the cg may not be impressed if they board you and check papers......

hamma job 03-20-2019 07:48 AM

Both bandit and electric reels are authorized gear types for recreational fishing of HMS species.

N2theblue 03-20-2019 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by hamma job (Post 12353360)
Both bandit and electric reels are authorized gear types for recreational fishing of HMS species.

Are you sure? I thought that was why rec boats had to figure out release clips for green sticking tuna, they couldn't use the bandit reels to pull in the whole mess at once.

hamma job 03-20-2019 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by N2theblue (Post 12353439)
Are you sure? I thought that was why rec boats had to figure out release clips for green sticking tuna, they couldn't use the bandit reels to pull in the whole mess at once.

I stand corrected just checked. No bandit. I was informed that bandit gear was definied by HMS as "permanently" affixed to the boat as in needing tools to remove it. An electric reel is classified as rod and reel.

N2theblue 03-20-2019 09:12 AM

:thumbsup:

Coral Head 03-20-2019 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by hamma job (Post 12353613)
I stand corrected just checked. No bandit. I was informed that bandit gear was definied by HMS as "permanently" affixed to the boat as in needing tools to remove it. An electric reel is classified as rod and reel.


So as long as your sticking it in a rod holder your legal, that would explain why nothing has ever been said to me about my rods and reels when boarded by the CG or FWC for that matter.

gerg 03-20-2019 02:42 PM

Yes, electric reels are fine for now. There was some talk of making it restricted gear but nothing has been done.

The key isn't whether it is permanently affixed, It's whether you can hold it in your hands while fighting the fish. Not that you have to, just that you can.

Like anything else, it's up to the discretion of the boarding officer. Once they write a ticket though, you are fighting a difficult battle.

Bannana Hammock 03-21-2019 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by on deck (Post 11324340)
I'm in the market for a daytime sword reel (Budget minded) And just ran across the 1200 version of the Seaborg. Line capacity...check. Max drag....check. Seems to fit the bill......Question is has anyone used one yet? Very interested in hearing the reviews. It seems like it may be a lil bit larger version of Shimano's beastmaster 9000. I don't want this to turn into a "Just get a s1200" thread. Thanks in advance.

just cought a 205 lb sword took 3 hours reel ran the entire time no issues

Bannana Hammock 03-21-2019 06:59 PM

High speed or low speed

Bannana Hammock 03-21-2019 07:08 PM

Got a 205 lb er on ours took 3 hours no issues

coores14 03-21-2019 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by nnavarro@somersetacademy. (Post 12349361)
If you want to see one. MunstersFishing on Instagram out of Islamorada has a video of his fish caught on it and he has caught multiple swords on it. But he has a video with the fish on there

buddy of mine just fished with him and caught a stud. All on the daiwa.

Bannana Hammock 03-21-2019 07:25 PM

Got a 205 lb sword the other day took our time reel ran for 3 hours with no issues got a little hot probably because we left it in high speed will use low speed in the future

Capt. Fred 03-22-2019 02:54 AM


Originally Posted by Bannana Hammock (Post 12359055)
Got a 205 lb sword the other day took our time reel ran for 3 hours with no issues got a little hot probably because we left it in high speed will use low speed in the future

Well done. I think that is the big advantage to this model.

Frigate Sales 04-05-2019 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by Bannana Hammock (Post 12359055)
Got a 205 lb sword the other day took our time reel ran for 3 hours with no issues got a little hot probably because we left it in high speed will use low speed in the future

Nice fish! Congrats.

Was the heat in the handle / drag area or the motor?
My guess is the handle area - as the drag washers are very tiny in the reel. Any decent swordfish run will heat them up quickly.

These reels have lots of gear ratio between the spool and the drag pack to make the drag stronger - but when a fish runs it backfires. It spins the heck out of those little washers and that generates tons of heat. The drag heat radiator is an aluminum disc a bit larger than a quarter - and IMO doesn't dissipate heat very well.

Great for winching up bottom fish, not so great for a drawn out fight with a sword - especially a spicy one that likes to run form 50 to 1500 feet a few times to cool off.

I've spent a little time with these reels lately, they are a really nicely packaged reel, with some very creative engineering. For the size and weight, pretty darn impressive. The screen is also very nicely done. IMO these reels (2 speed versions) are far superior to the Shimano Beastmaster reel priced the same.

We played a little tug of war this week, to the death!!!

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.the...c3c9501d25.jpg

fly186 04-05-2019 12:39 PM

Is that the new Banax reel on the left? If so, it looks bigger than the SB1200MJ.
What were the tug-of-war results?


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