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Old 02-23-2018, 08:19 PM
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Iíve searched all the old posts but didnít find an answer to my question. Has anyone had regular success trolling the Dinnerbell/Cowbell lures at slower speeds? Iím talking about the lighter 17oz ones and slower in the 8to10 knot range? I picked up several to take with me on my annual Hawaii trip and go fishing with buddy there. In fact Iím here now and will be fishing over the next month. Any help is very appreciated since Iíve spent most of my life fishing the Great Lakes and am still learning this saltwater fishing. Also can I expect to get Mahi Mahi when fishing these lures?

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Old 02-23-2018, 10:09 PM
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It’s pretty early to expect to encounter many Ono, but there are always some around, you just gotta get lucky.
I haven’t had much luck trolling cowbells in Hawaiian waters, the Ono prefer heavy jet heads or your best Ahi lures. I seriously doubt Mahi Mahi would attack one either. They will come in at a big noisy lure, but usually veer off before striking it.
5 and 7” lures are usually more appealing to Mahi, but bait is best!
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Old 02-23-2018, 10:42 PM
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Thanks for the reply. I figured it was a bit early and really just wanted some input regarding using these so I can let my friend know how to fish them when it heats up this summer. And you’re right there’s no replacing bait. Hopefully we’ll find some tomorrow.

It’s interesting to hear about your experience using this style of lure in Hawaii. Do you think that it’s because a lot of guys don’t strictly go after Ono running high speed setups?
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Old 02-23-2018, 10:44 PM
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Ono prefer heavy jet heads or your best Ahi lures
Yeah the most expensive ones (!)
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Old 02-24-2018, 04:24 AM
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They won't look right in the water st those speeds. They just kinda drag
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Old 02-24-2018, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Ono1 View Post
Itís interesting to hear about your experience using this style of lure in Hawaii. Do you think that itís because a lot of guys donít strictly go after Ono running high speed setups?
I had some but sold them on THT. Didnít catch anything. We donít have any baitfish they resemble.

You wonít catch much Mahi when fishing Ono. They generally donít inhabit the same waters. I catch a few Mahi when Iím moving from one Ono ledge to another but itís limited to moves where Iím crossing over much deeper water on the way.
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Old 02-24-2018, 12:51 PM
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Cowbell type lures are designed for high speed trolling - I like around 17 knots. High speed trolling may not be the best method if the wahoo are congregated in an area. In certain regions it is the best way to catch hoo and in others its not. Over here on the east coast, we throw a few cowbells out on our long runs to blue water (40-100 miles depending on locale.) and every once and awhile we catch a wahoo. I know people who have caught mahi and even bluefin tuna at 17 knots so those saying mahi won't bite a cowbell are wrong. Best mahi lure? no way, but you never know.
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Old 02-24-2018, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Lone Ono View Post
OPís not asking about catching wahoo.
You troll them slow they don't work
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Old 02-24-2018, 09:25 PM
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Well we went out today and ended up missing an Ono on a dinner bell. I did tell my friend that they are best suited to higher speeds and that he may want to use them when running out to a FAD or maybe try the high speed thing in close to shore later in the year. The thing is being that the island is a mountain in the middle of the ocean it doesn’t take very long to find blue water and I would guess the best Ono area is only a couple of miles offshore at best. Anyway we were happy to at least have one on considering it’s not even close to peak season for them. Ended up with 5 nice Mahi Mahi even though we were struggling putting fish in the boat (we lost 6 others). Thanks for all the input.
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Originally Posted by WPBTH View Post
You troll them slow they don't work
No idea what your post has to do with what I said. I was talking about the fish, not the lure.
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High speed trolling in Hawaiian waters is seldom an option, most times it’s too rough, the lures won’t stay underwater, and the boat and fisherman get beat to hell and soaked.
When Ono are biting, 9 or 10 knots works well, but often 7 works too.
I’ve had some great hookups when the lures drop on a sharp turn or the boat is slowed too, so take your pick, mix it up, and do what works best for you!
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Old 02-25-2018, 07:46 PM
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Ive landed 3 wahoo in the past 2 seasons while using these at tuna trolling speeds. We put the 17oz size on the shotgun waaaaay back.
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Old 02-25-2018, 07:52 PM
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IDK about the water you’re fishing but I do know that Mahi will bite the Dinner Bells. I bought a few of the 32oz. from Nic and the first fish I caught on one was a Mahi. It was a blue/white 32oz.
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Old 02-25-2018, 08:39 PM
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First time I used my first dinner bell was in Maui on a charter boat. Drug it next to their marlin lures and got a few nice hoo just regular marlin speed so much slower than high speed. I have 3 dinner bells. Iv run them side by side to the cow bells and the cow bells seem to stay in the water better. This was matching rods, line, etc. the 48oz dinner bell was coming out of the water when the 24oz cow bell was staying in. Real world test. I think they have a more aggressive head that cups more water. Both work very good and catch fish. I like Nics products and support so I buy from him but wanted to give you a real world outcome
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Old 02-25-2018, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by nuffaredy View Post
High speed trolling in Hawaiian waters is seldom an option, most times it’s too rough, the lures won’t stay underwater, and the boat and fisherman get beat to hell and soaked!
I do it all the time. Stay leeward for HST.

For the Mahi catching crowd: Ono are most prevalent on the drop-offs around the 40 fathom mark. That’s often less than 1/4 mile from shore. When I say you won’t often catch Mahi trolling for Ono it’s because the Mahi aren’t that close in. Neither are the spears, the bills or the tuna. It’s a very different fishery.

The guys that HST Hawaiian waters don’t generally run a WWB lure. We run jagged drop-offs at speed so hard rights and hard lefts. We need to keep the spread compact to keep it from getting all twisted up. The drops range from 30 fathoms to Davey Jones Locker in a 50 yard wide swath.

Because of the remote nature of the islands there are very few species here. Most simply have never made it across the great abyss. Ono have a whopping two species of bait to feed on, neither is shaped like a bell. Not saying you can’t catch an Ono on a bell lure, just saying it’s not going to be top catching lure. To date I have purchased six of them and ran them regularly but sold them on THT to someone I hope got better production with them. They were never going to be a top-producing lure for me. From a “match the hatch” standpoint there are much better options.

Disclaimer: I started my HST quest in Hawaiian waters in 1988. My opinions are based on 30 years of field testing. Still trying to figure it out.
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Old 11-27-2018, 01:33 PM
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funny everyone says they dont work slow but we trolled at 8 knots and caught this the other day it was rough so had to keep speed down
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funny everyone says they dont work slow but we trolled at 8 knots and caught this the other day it was rough so had to keep speed down
I only have to say that the proximity of that kids face to that fresh Wahoos face and heavy ass cowbell makes my butthole pucker a lil bit. I've caught exactly 3 hoos on cowbell-type lures and not one faster than 14 mph.....but none also slower than 10.
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Congrats! But just because it happened does not make it advisable. I once caught a mahi on a trolling lure that was left overboard while we were in neutral, that's not how I target mahi now.
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We use them and don't have troubles keeping them from skipping though they hang up with weeds like everything else.15knots, best color purple or blue.
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Originally Posted by DarcizzleOffshore View Post
Congrats! But just because it happened does not make it advisable. I once caught a mahi on a trolling lure that was left overboard while we were in neutral, that's not how I target mahi now.
We caught a 25lb Wahoo on a skirted jet head and that lure would have been close to straight down under the boat as we were stationary for a while, complete fluke as weíd forgot to pull it in with the rest as it was up in the rocket launcher while we were catching and dealing with a YFT.

Agreed, and thatís not how I target Wahoo either!!
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