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Old 08-03-2017, 06:31 PM
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Someone at the tackle shop asked me why I used a bimini twist. He suggested a surgeons loop just tied 15 feet up. I don't feel it will serve the same purpose as the Bimini but maybe I'm wrong. What do you guys think? BTW I'm using it on all my offshore rods, 50 and 80lb. test.
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Not as strong as a Bimini but otherwise fine. I have used them in braid from time to time with a few extra turns.
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Originally Posted by BACKTOTHESEA View Post
Not as strong as a Bimini but otherwise fine. I have used them in braid from time to time with a few extra turns.
Really? So if I needed to get a rod back in service quick I could tie one on the fly and go? Interesting to know. Thanks
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Really? So if I needed to get a rod back in service quick I could tie one on the fly and go? Interesting to know. Thanks
No replacement for a 20 turn Bimini

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Surgeons loop works well. In a pinch, on a rocking boat, low light conditions, I'd go to a surgeons loop over a bimini any day.

When I tie a Bimini in braid, I do at least 60 turns.
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All I have been tying lately is a surgeons loop to connect braid to flouro on all my inshore rigs. so quick and easy to tie and very strong.
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So I assume it works the same? If one of the double line breaks I can still fight the fish on the other like with the Bimini? That's great to know. Definitely easier on the fly.
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So I assume it works the same? If one of the double line breaks I can still fight the fish on the other like with the Bimini? That's great to know. Definitely easier on the fly.
That's going to depend on your other connection. Both surgeons and bimini make a loop. Whether you can fight a fish on one leg is going to depend on the terminal connection.


As far as Biminis go, there is evidence that more twists is actually detrimental. The strength of the knot actually appears to be more dependent on how it is finished.

http://www.sportfishingmag.com/techn...-fishing-knots
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Originally Posted by N2theblue View Post
That's going to depend on your other connection. Both surgeons and bimini make a loop. Whether you can fight a fish on one leg is going to depend on the terminal connection.


As far as Biminis go, there is evidence that more twists is actually detrimental. The strength of the knot actually appears to be more dependent on how it is finished.

http://www.sportfishingmag.com/techn...-fishing-knots
Ok so that's dependent upon my offshore swivel knot then. Great info here guys. Thanks
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Don't forget the spider hitch.

fast and comes in handy
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Old 08-04-2017, 02:53 PM
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A surgeons loop is not even close in strength to a properly tied Bimini. Look at published data from reputable sources on the web, like Paulus. Test it yourself, too. BTW, a spider hitch is the same knot as a surgeon's loop, but tied with a different technique. The many turns in the spider hitch can make it a stronger surgeons loop, but still not nearly as strong as the Bimini.

Only if you don't need all the strength of your line, sure, the surgeons loop is much faster to tie and can make good sense.
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Yeah they aren't THAT much faster, either. Practice your bimini and you should be able to tie it pretty quickly. Not like it is a complicated knot.
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Yeah they aren't THAT much faster, either. Practice your bimini and you should be able to tie it pretty quickly. Not like it is a complicated knot.
No disagreement. I hope everybody has seen this method of tying. It works best if your reel has IAR:
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