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Old 04-30-2006, 09:25 PM
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I know, I can already hear the screams for everyone that this reel is beyond expensive, but have you actually put one on a rod and checked them out? I did this weekend and ended up getting 2 of them paired with Calstar 700H's.....these reels are absolutely amazing when using them for yo-yo/iron setups. The gear ratio thing is not straight forward. The higher gear ratios are great for the retreive, but once you hook up most high gear ratio reels are impossible to reel with a larger fish. The torsa's overcome this by using larger overall diameter gears in effect you get the higher speed retreive as well as the cranking power. I took an 8# weight and tried to reel using a Trinidad 40 with a 4.9:1 gear ratio and could barely turn the handle. The Torsa 20 using the same 8# weight at a 5.8:1 ratio cranked that weight right up! And the stock drags have so much stopping power that having slightly less line is NO issue....its about an ounce heavier than the Trini 40 but sits much lower on the rod and is much more comfortable to cast because your thumb doesnt have to reach so high off the rod to thumb the spool. Finally the offset gears on the Torsa put the center of gravity lower on the rod and it creates a much more stable balance......

Of course time will tell how the reel holds up.....

So tell me what you think......????? I want to hear what everyone else has to say about this setup?
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Old 05-01-2006, 10:31 AM
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I think I wish I could afford them. Love the reel.
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Old 05-01-2006, 03:07 PM
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pthein - 4/30/2006 9:25 PM

The higher gear ratios are great for the retreive, but once you hook up most high gear ratio reels are impossible to reel with a larger fish. The torsa's overcome this by using larger overall diameter gears in effect you get the higher speed retreive as well as the cranking power.
No offense pthein, but it looks like the "New Math" has wormed its way into the mechanical engineering world, because I just saw some writer making these same kind of voodoo claims in one of the fishing mags.

The last time I checked, it didn't matter HOW BIG your main gear was, or what the pitch was on your helical drive gear...or how many planetary gears you had between your Elbow Grease injectors and your Muffler Bearing zerk fittings...there were TWO things that determined mechanical advantage in a reel and ONLY TWO:
1. The length of the reel handle (this would be called the "lever arm length") and
2. How much line (in inches or feet or meters or Angstroms) was retrieved in one full revolution of the reel handle.
This is the beginning and the end of gear ratio and mechanical advantage.
And unless the physical laws of the universe have suddenly changed:
a) if it's easier to reel against a given force, then the gear ratio MUST be lower, and
b) the more inches of line you retrieve with each revolution of the reel handle, the higher your gear ratio is, and the harder it is to reel against a given force with a given lever arm length. Period.

There is no way in the world that you can both a) raise the gear ratio and b) make it easier to reel. It's physically impossible. Even for a company like Shimano. Sorry.

Do these new reels have some kind of newfangled tractor-beam assistance or Bertol ray emitters? I don't get why everybody believes this dreck!
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Old 05-01-2006, 11:26 PM
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No offense taken as it seems you know a lot more than I do...

Anyone use one of these reels yet and have anything to report on them????
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Old 05-02-2006, 08:27 AM
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There is no way in the world that you can both a) raise the gear ratio and b) make it easier to reel. It's physically impossible. Even for a company like Shimano. Sorry.

Do these new reels have some kind of newfangled tractor-beam assistance or Bertol ray emitters? I don't get why everybody believes this dreck![/QUOTE]
You had better try one of these because you mouth is overloading another area of your physiology They had the 8# set-up at one of the shows I went to and it is amazing the power that reel has at that speed of retrieve I could barley move it with a tld right next to it
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Old 05-02-2006, 08:29 AM
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Yeh,I think Capt Crunch should try one of these awesome reels first before sounding off on them. They work great here on the east coast for tuna (up to 200lbs so far). Pthein, great choice on both the reel and the rod. Calstars are incredible, I own 6.
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Old 05-09-2006, 08:44 PM
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Couldn't stand it any more, went and bought me at 20 today, going 100 + miles offshore tomorrow. If we get into the big ones, will give report thur. or fri.spooled it with 100 # power pro and a 80# mono 10 ft. top shot .
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Old 05-10-2006, 10:36 AM
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I cant wait to hear how it works and fishes for you....... please let us know...
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Old 05-11-2006, 05:38 PM
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Well we got into the big ones , on the first wreck . Got 14 grouper 10 to 25 plus lbs. The reel was well worth the money. When i hooked up i would put rod against gunnel ,the 20 would easily with out that much effort crank them up . We were in 160 ft. water . Tried the tld 25 we had on board it would also move the bigger fish, but you would be much more tired after cranking them up from the bottom. For 250.00 i feel this is a very good ,powerful reel. I'am sure there are better reels ( for more money) made ,But this reel has speed and power combined.The bottom line you will not be disapointed if you purchase one of these reels.Total for the day 14 grouper 20 yellow tail snapper 8 mangrove snapper 6 jolthead porgy(hubcap size ) one ft chop all day 3 good fishing buddies cold beer " at end of day " don't get no better !
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Old 05-11-2006, 08:26 PM
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you bought the TORSA 20 for $250.00????? Where did you find that deal??????
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Old 05-11-2006, 10:12 PM
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Sorry my bad , i was talking about the new tyrnos 20 with a 5:1 gear train. They have also gone to larger gears in this reel , has great power + speed.
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