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Old 04-30-2017, 07:31 PM
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I'm fishing Superior every weekend, okuma cold water rods and reels with line counters rods and reels will handle anything there, including some big musky we've encountered lately. Size 45 for most everything, better to have too much line that not enough or room to stack leadcore on if needed.
Fish are up high this time of year, planer boards and stick baits are your friend. Xraps size 8 and 10, orange pink and clown work well. Watermelon bay rats and gold bomber long A too. In a few months transition to flasher fly setups for salmon in the water column. start bangin sand with downriggers or dipsys.about this time too with flasher and spin glos for the grease pigs.
I've got plenty of info if you need it for fishing the North and South shore. PM me if you have questions.
This guy does a great show on fishing Superior, okuma rods and reels:

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Old 11-26-2018, 07:01 PM
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Hi All,
I know this is an older thread, but I just bought a used Edgewater for boating on Lake Michigan from Michigan City, and I'd like to get started on fishing for Coho and Lake Trout. Based on this thread, I've ordered 2 Tekota 800 line counter reels, but am unsure about which rods to buy. I only have the budget for 2, so which rods would be the most versatile for the widest variety of fish?
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Old 11-27-2018, 04:44 AM
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You are going to need more rods.....

You will use different techniques for cohos and lakers. Most of your coho will be in the spring on the surface and the lakers will always be on the bottom. You usually troll with a "spread' of rods for coho with planer boards to simulate a school of alewives. You can get by with 2, but you will be limiting yourself. Most folks run 6-10 rods for coho.

Lakers will be in the lower 3rd of the water column. Do you have downriggers? Otherwise, you can set up a braid rod with a 1lb ball and a mono leader. You bounce the ball on the bottom while trolling.

You should also consider a pair of dipsey-diver rods.
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Old 11-27-2018, 05:09 AM
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I always run a spread so you will need 8-10 rods. Routinely have 8 lines in the water. Okuma 7-8 foot cold water trolling with line counters. eBay usually has a 4 pack for under $300 dollars. Great Lakes doesn't require the high end rods you need in Salt.
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Old 11-27-2018, 09:37 PM
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Hey, guys, thanks for the responses. Guess I’ll have to rethink my budget. I do have a couple older, mint Penn Senators I could deploy. Would those be best for trolling for the deep water Lakers? No downriggers so far...
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Old 11-30-2018, 05:21 AM
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Probably a little on the stout side. You want a rod with a slower action for lakers, but they may get you by without any other options. But with no downriggers, how to you plan to get down that deep? The reef is about 120' deep. You can spool up some old Penn 209s with braid and get some 8' ugly sticks. You're looking at around $80 a combo. Drop it down with a 1lb. ball, 5' leader, and a flasher and fly and spin-n-glo and you're golden.

It's getting to be fishing show season right after the holidays. There are at least 5 good swap-meets in your area over the winter. You can get into some nice gently used gear to get you started. I honestly think you are not going to enjoy yourself and struggle if you aren't properly equipped.

May I also suggest you visit chi-townangler.com. They have a very interactive forum with a lot of experienced anglers willing to help new fishermen. They also don't tolerate much of the drama and abrasiveness that occurs here. You will find a lot of people to buddy up with so you can learn.

Also, check out "SchoolofFishCharters.com" - Ask for Mike or Scott. They run trips every year geared towards teaching you how to fish for Great Lakes salmon and trout. They will show you how to rig your rods, baits, and gear. How to troll. etc. Mike is a high school teacher and good at what he does.

Lastly, check out Salmon Unlimited and Trollers Unlimited. They are local clubs in your area. They have monthly meetings with guest speakers and seminars to discuss techniques.
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Old 11-30-2018, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoosier Grady View Post
Hey, guys, thanks for the responses. Guess I’ll have to rethink my budget. I do have a couple older, mint Penn Senators I could deploy. Would those be best for trolling for the deep water Lakers? No downriggers so far...
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You can buy used downriggers over the winter when people upgrade their gear. Start with a pair of manual ones like the Scotty 1050's. I used them for about 10 years before I went electric. Max 2 rods per angler I think in your area, but more is better. I think the salmon in particular will chase around before the commit to bite and a spread gives them a choice/temptation that they need.

I would try to get a couple of cheap downrigger rods. Its trolling so sensitivity is not an issue. They are not tuna so you don't need anything really tough in rod. If you go with cheap reels like Penn 209s and upgrade the drags to carbon fiber so they are smoother, you will be fine. They are good out of the box, but will be smoother for longer with carbon drags.
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Old 11-30-2018, 06:10 AM
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Please get downriggers. There are enough of "those guys" running 1/2 mile of wire back and screaming at everyone else to "keep out of their spread."
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Old 11-30-2018, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SalmonDaze View Post
Please get downriggers. There are enough of "those guys" running 1/2 mile of wire back and screaming at everyone else to "keep out of their spread."
Really good point! When I had my boat on Lake Ontario (2 rods per angler) you would have boats running dipseys off the sides and wire back and taking up a couple of acres of lake.
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Max 2 rods per angler I think in your area, but more is better
3 rods per angler. But it's still better to go with several people. You want at least a 10 rod spread to diversify your catch chances.
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3 rods per angler. But it's still better to go with several people. You want at least a 10 rod spread to diversify your catch chances.
3 per angler? Wow. Up on Georgian bay of Lake Huron its 1 rod per angler. I fish solo a lot so its a spread of one. No wonder you Lake Michigan guys catch so many fish.
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Thanks, all ,for the GREAT info. All these tips will keep me occupied until it's time to unwrap the boat next Spring.
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