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Old 04-26-2006, 10:30 PM
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Fishing off of sc coast any thoughts on flouro/mono for the tuna.

also minimum and maximum length for leaders. I have been told that maybe my leaders are too short....
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Chunk: 60#-130# Flouro
Troll: 150#-220# Mono
 
Old 04-27-2006, 02:42 AM
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Some of the boats around here use 50' of 100# flouro when trolling to keep the terminal tackle out of the water. That's a little too expensive for me so maybe half or third that length. Not too many people chunk around Chs.
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Old 04-27-2006, 08:05 AM
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chunk: 60#-80# fluoro or as low as 40# if you're not getting any bites
troll: 150#-250# mono
15' length
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I did well last year with 25-30' of 100# flouro for trolling connected to the line w/ an 80 lb SPRO. Some say that flouro vs. mono doesn't matter much for trolling, but a lot of the charter boats around here seem to think otherwise. I feel like I definitely have gotten more tuna bites with long, light leaders fished way behind the boat. We generally have to work harder for our tuna bites down here, and the cost of flouro is minimal compared to the cost of getting offshore around here.
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All the suggestions here have been right, only I use a 9 foot leader on my lures, jets, daisies, GM's, etc. Makes the handling at the boat easier.
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Old 04-27-2006, 10:21 AM
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All my trolling lures are rigged with mono.

5-6" lures w/130#
9-11" w/200#

Overall length 7-8'.

All chunking rigs are Floro 6 foot length 30#, 50# & 80#.
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Old 04-27-2006, 11:39 AM
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Fishing off SC I would assume you'll be in nice clear blue water so smaller is better for sure...For standard length leaders attached via snap swivel I go about 10ft or so and I mainly use 130-150 pound Suffix leader (130 is on about 85% of my lures, only use 150 on larger Islander lures). The Suffix is thin...130 is actually about the same thickness as Ande 100 pound. If I wanted to be stealthy, I would go with 25-30ft 100-130 pound Suffix via small SPRO power swivels for wind-ons.

Reality in SC again I assume is 25-60 pound Yellowfins so even 150 pound leader is overkill.

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Old 04-27-2006, 12:46 PM
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30'+ of 60-100# fluoro with wind on swivels.
If the water is pretty they can be picky.
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I dont rig any lures for trolling with flouro .. 150# or 200# mono depending on size of lure. For chunking , 90# flouro is my preference, but will drop to 60# if needed. I have found that proper presentation of baits allows heavier leader to be used.
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I use 100lbs to 130 lbs fluro for my ballyhoo rigs, and short 5' to 6' fluro for chunking (60 to 130 lbs) cause we fish short handed. mono for all the trolling stuff.(mostly 200#)
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I fish 100# ande pink on everything but marlin specific lures and teasers that is 250# and up
Flouro when scratched is more visible than straight mono I fish in a small boat so it is usually pretty flat which demands lighter and smaller presentations for consistent bites in less than perfect conditions heavier stuff would be better for durability. I have to rerig on an avaerage day and will have to pull stuff out of the spread in a hot bite because of nicks and abrasion
Price you have to pay but you will have more oppurtunities with the lighter leaders We use 30's so 100 is plenty of shock leader in my case If I'm going to fish heavy 50's(80# test) and up 150# ande pink would get rigged
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Old 04-27-2006, 09:40 PM
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so what is the overall opinion on the minimum size flouro leader to use.... i am thinking that i am makinga mistake using ball bearing swivels and the then clip on the other end...i might have too much gear in the water. i catch tuna, but who knows i could doulbe my numbers with less metal in the water.
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Old 04-27-2006, 10:31 PM
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Capt. Squiddly - 4/26/2006 10:38 PM

Chunk: 60#-130# Flouro
Troll: 150#-220# Mono


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Old 04-28-2006, 11:02 AM
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JG, I would not say that is a mistake at all...do small wind-on's and long leaders make a difference on the troll, I honestly don't know but if it gives you more confidence that your spread is better, than do it. If I have ANY intentions of dropping my riggers back more than say 5 waves, I use the wind-ons with long leaders (and I'll use small bullet head Islanders or sea witches with my ballyhoo). Especially if I'm putting them back say 100 yards looking for those finicky bites. Yeah, it's great when the tuna are eating the baits right off the transom and bombing everything in the spread but when they are around and you're not getting bites, you sometimes have to drop em' back and use smaller leaders and small spro's...especially in very clear blue water like in NC and SC. The further north you go, the more heavy stuff you can get away with due to more blended water or even fishing on the green side of the breaks (we see this in VA a lot). I usually run small daisy chains off my short riggers so the use of a small spro is not necessary...since the teasers ahead of the chase bait are causing a commmotion anyway.

Next time out, maybe try the longer leaders with spro's on your long riggers and shot gun baits...especially if you think you'll be dropping those three baits way back to get hits. Obviously the main goal is the keep the spread close to the boat and tight for multiple hits but that does not always work...

Will you double your numbers, I don't know but you might scrape out an extra fish or two when they get finicky and make the day that much better.

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Old 04-28-2006, 12:24 PM
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We fish out of Chas and the longer fluoro leaders seem to help with the tuna bite. I like to use at least 30' of 80-100lb fluoro attached to the main line w/ a small spro swivel. The pain in the arse comes when you loose a few lures and miss out on boating the Wahoo's. For that reason, I'll usually run the two flat lines w/ single strand wire and snap swivels in/near the prop wash.. Once the main tuna bite is over --I'll add the snap swivels and troll w/ heavier (150-200lb) mono.

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