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Old 04-06-2006, 08:39 PM
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had a request to go through this reel several weeks ago. sorry it's taken so long. it's a fairly straight forward reel to work on. just a few little tricks to get it apart. here's the link to the schematics....

http://mikesreelrepair.com/schematic...%20CU200B5.pdf

and here's the reel.



to remove the left side plate, flip up the turnkey dial (key #1510) and turn it counter clockwise until you can pull the entire left side plate assembly (key #1509) off.



set the left side plate and spool aside.



let's pull the handle and star, including the handle nut plate screw (key #795, the handle nut plate (key #1993), the handle nut (key #797), the handle (key #1994), and the star drag (key #1486).





now remove the star drag spring (key #1106), the star drag nut (key #1365), the star drag spacer (key #1289), and the two drag spring washers (key #15).



remove the right side plate screws. note that three are short (key #786) and one in the 6 o'clock position is long (key #1998).



remove the left side plate screw/multi-purpose screw (key #987).



pull the thumb rest (key #2044) straight forward. this is the tricky part.



the right side plate assembly (key #1997) will now lift straight up.



you now have full access to the right side plate.



here's a neat little trick. the main drive gear (key #1213) is often stuck! put the handle back on, grab the main gear and twist the handle back and forth at the same time your lift the main gear off.



i've lined up the drag washer A (key# 1214), the drive gear (key #1213), drag washer C (key #1212), the key washer (key #1211), and the roller clutch inner tube (key #1206).



the carbontex washer that you need is the calcutta 200 drag set. it fits a bunch of different reels!



throw a thick coat of drag grease on both carbontex washers....





and rebuild the gear cluster.



lube the right side plate bearing (key #194).



the right side plate (key #1997) drops straight down.



push the thumb rest (key #2044) straight back and into place.



re-install the left side plate multi-purpose screw (key #987).



re-install all four right side plate screws (key #786 and 1998). the long screw goes in the 6 o'clock position.



re-install the drag spring washers (key #15) in a "()" configuration. then install the star drag spacer (key #1289) and star drag nut (key #1365).



install the star drag spring (key #1106) and the star drag (key #1486). push the star drag straight down onto the drive shaft (key #1491) until it clears the "shoulders" of the drive shaft.



push the handle (key #1994) down until it rests on the "shoulders" of the drive shaft, add a little grease and tighten down the handle nut (key #797).



install the handle nut plate (key #1993) and screw (key #795).



lube the right spool bearing (no key #).



lube the left side plate bearing (key #194).



re-install the spool and left side plate and you're done!



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Old 04-12-2006, 01:27 PM
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Thanks for another AMAZING post Alan!!
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:55 PM
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Fantastic . . . so well described I think do I will try it




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Old 04-12-2006, 05:40 PM
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Thanks for the breakdown. I have six of these, never needed to strip them down all the way yet but good to know info. Any info on the TLD 15 post???? (anxiously awaiting that one...)
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Old 04-12-2006, 07:21 PM
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ok! i have to finish taxes tomorrow and then i'll see what's in the boxes. i should have a tld 15 somewhere in the garage.
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Old 04-13-2006, 08:24 AM
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Great post Alan. I"ve done a few of those reels with only the standard schematic as a guide. Your pics would have shortened the time it took. Do you have a Shimano part number for the carbontex washers? I'll order some from my wholesaler to keep in stock. The Curado is popular locally with some dedicated snook fishermen that I know. They load them with braid and tear up the snook at close quarters.
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captain lemay, you need to talk to dawn at http://www.smoothdrag.com/. she's a great lady and she's the one that sells carbontex. you will find an entire line of aftermarket drag washers at her site, but i only recommend carbontex, not the standard smoothies.

these aftermarket washers are really the way to go. you can grind down the penn washers to fit (as i have had to do for years) but it's really a pain. even though it's a few dollars more, carbontex is so much easier! thanks, alan.
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Old 04-13-2006, 01:08 PM
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Alan - I thought you normaly wipe the drag washer down after greasing it - looks like here you left it pretty "wet". How come?
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the drags work well either way, for star drag reels or lever drags. wiping the excess off is just another step. sometimes i'm in a little bit of a rush, so i leave the star drag reels gooped up because they work fine like that.

now with lever drag reels, i've started wiping off the excess because i've found that you can squeeze a little extra "drag at strike" by doing so. turning down the pre-set knob will move the drag pressure plate closer to the drag washer. if the drag is cleaned off, you can edge it just a smidge closer and it won't stick.

there is also the issue of "high speed runout" that dr. rob and eric sheets (of cal's 2 speeds) have discussed. when a fish takes a long hard run on a gooped up lever drag reel, a drag washer with excess grease may start to slip too much, resulting in a drop in functional drag pressure of 50% or more. and that's bad!!!! but we're talking 200 pound tuna. eric sheets told me that wiping away the excess shimano grease would decrease the drag loss during these high speed runs, and that his product (cal's drag grease) eliminates it all together.

that's why i clean off the drag washers of lever drag reels, and leave the star drag reels gooped up!
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Old 04-13-2006, 01:25 PM
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oh, and regarding the smoothdrag company, i'm not affilliated. thanks! alan
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great info - as usual. Thanks.

How about spinning reels - do you recommend the same treatment for the drags?
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Really helpful info. You have saved me loads of time and aggravation. Thank you.

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Old 04-21-2006, 11:49 AM
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kitebuz - 4/13/2006 12:28 PM great info - as usual. Thanks. How about spinning reels - do you recommend the same treatment for the drags?
thanks. for spinners, all you do is measure out the dimensions of the drag washers and match them up with one of the stock penn drag washers. i had a post a while back that listed all of the dimensions of the 25 smaller drag washers that penn makes. you need the millimeter sizes of the inner diameter, outer diameter and thickness. a small 6 set of calipers is usually $20 at your nearest chain auto parts store.

that's for a top drag spinning reel. the bottom drag spinners are a nightmare. the drag washers in these bottom drag units is usually so small and they're packed in so tight, that i usually can't do anything with them.
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