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Old 08-23-2016, 06:41 PM
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WOW just WOW. Looks like the polygraph has DSQed another boat.
IF this holds in a court of law, the Big Eye which won 786,000 might get like double that MORE in winnings. Expect a lengthy court fight!!

What are your thoughts on polygraphs? I dissected these in great detail last year. Some claim they are wrong some 20% of the time

Questions About First-Place Billfish Lead To White Marlin Open’s Top Prize Of $2.8M Being Withheld

Aug 23,2016 by Shawn Soper


http://mdcoastdispatch.com/2016/08/2...eing-withheld/
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Just saw that myself. Somebody is nervous.
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Hubris would win most of the white marlin money putting it as the most money ever won in a tournament
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Originally Posted by Re-Bait View Post
WOW just WOW. Looks like the polygraph has DSQed another boat.
IF this holds in a court of law, the Big Eye which won 786,000 might get like double that MORE in winnings. Expect a lengthy court fight!!

What are your thoughts on polygraphs? I dissected these in great detail last year. Some claim they are wrong some 20% of the time

Questions About First-Place Billfish Lead To White Marlin Open’s Top Prize Of $2.8M Being Withheld

Aug 23,2016 by Shawn Soper


http://mdcoastdispatch.com/2016/08/2...eing-withheld/
WMO hasn't come out and said the reason yet. As the article states it could be anything from the polygraph to somebody else grabbing the rod before the fish was landed.

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personally think they are BS, I passed one with the Question have you been drinking and I was holding a beer at the time of the question. Of course I had been drinking, but did not care so I passed.

No clue what went on with the tournament but I put absolutely no faith in polygraphs.
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I had one once (and passed), but would never do it again.

The guy administering it was as shady as they come.
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Being discussed here already
http://www.thehulltruth.com/mid-atla...thread-12.html
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Polygraph = Joke
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Originally Posted by tunatango123 View Post
Hubris would win most of the white marlin money putting it as the most money ever won in a tournament
It would go to get reel with the blue not hubris with the tuna according to how I read the rules.
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Originally Posted by dell30rb View Post
Polygraph = Joke
According to a NIST study that tried to validate claims of polygraph accuracy, polygraphs are only slightly more accurate at detecting lies than random chance. They have no standing in courts for good reason.
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Originally Posted by KingRanch View Post
It would go to get reel with the blue not hubris with the tuna according to how I read the rules.
Have no idea there are so many calcuttas to consider. However Hubris 400,000 jumped to 786,000 because no other Blue Marlins were caught and the 790lb blue marlin boat Get Reel was not in all the calcuttas.
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Nothing in the article or the WMO statement points to the polygraph as being the issue. Somebody knows something, will be interesting to find out what happens.
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Originally Posted by N2theblue View Post
Nothing in the article or the WMO statement points to the polygraph as being the issue. Somebody knows something, will be interesting to find out what happens.
LOL when it's the polygraph first thing that happens is SILENCE, everybody goes mute.

So here's my 'thing' with them. If a polygrapgh gives a "split decision" (say 6 pass -one fail) do the majority pass/outweigh the negative/fail??

If it's only a 5% inaccurate rate...and they polygraph everybody on a boat..chances are they are going to get somebody to fail.
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Why are people harping on the polygraph. I have not seen anything yet that says the polygraph is what triggered the investigation.
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I agree polygraphs are not reliable. Used to tournament bassfish with one of my neighbors when I lived on Lake Lanier. He had an in chest defibrillator so he couldn't take the test but since he was so good we finished high enough most of the time to have to take one, so I was always the one hooked up. Like mentioned above the people who don't mind lying are the ones that the machine doesn't catch. They work best on honest people who probably wouldn't cheat anyway.
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I heard the issue was that the boat nor angler did not have a Maryland saltwater license.
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If that's the case the WMO very clearly states, wait this was not highlighted last night, looks like the fish may stand


"Participants are assumed to have all necessary permits, licenses and/or registrations required by law. However, it is not the responsibility of the tournament officials or directors to verify that all required permits, licenses and/or registrations are acquired by anglers participating in the tournament. Failure of a winning angler to have obtained any or all required permits, licenses and or registrations shall not be the basis for a protest to be filed under the General Tournament Rules, or for a fish to be disqualified."
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The money is not being paid out to the white marlin winner just reported by Marlin Mag. It will be divided up into the other categories but that exact numbers haven't been released.
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If that's the case, then it's over, end of story.... Except for the court fight of course!
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Originally Posted by Tide1on74 View Post
I heard the issue was that the boat nor angler did not have a Maryland saltwater license.
How do you let that happen after what happened in the Big Rock just a few years ago? That would be my first question to everybody the night before and the morning of before we left the dock. I would have to see every single one if I was captain.

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