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Old 05-16-2016, 11:08 AM
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Default Have your Banax Electric reels held up?

I understand that you guys have been using these for a while and I and shopping for recommendations to see if your Kaigen 1000's are holding up ok.

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Don't expect they are the same quality as Japanese electric reels.
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I've sold a few hundred at this point.

1 failure of the level wind due to a birds nest - owner fessed up - fixed for no charge.

1 release lever stopped working - had a screw back out - even with loctite and a lockwasher - must have been assembled on a Monday morning? Fixed and returned the same day.

Spoke to a guy yesterday, caught a mako that went a few hundred pounds. When the fish was at the boat (3.5 hours later mind you...) it made a final run and broke the line out tension device. He offered to pay for repairs - but he and the crew were amazed at the performance of the reel regardless. It's not what they are designed for. I should have that reel in hand in the next day or 2 - will most likely repair for free depending on severity of the failure.

I've had some folks send me "old" reels to be serviced - not repaired. I was surprised of the internal condition, they looked really good - they had high hours on the computer. Even told them they didn't need new drag washers, but we decided to put them in regardless.

Of course I'm biased, but I'm also the repair guy and have seen VERY few issues, less than I anticipated.

Japanese reels are good quality, but so are these. Made in South Korea, not China. Banax has machining capabilities that will match any of the Japanese guys. Banax private labels a few of the "japanese" reels for various manufacturers...
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Thanks for the overview James. I am in Mexico, so sending one to you from here during our 2 4 month long seasons is a problem until I get home to the states. Corrosion would be my main concern on a small boat.
Do you hose (mist) them off like conventional and spinning reels, or rather, what do you recommend to prevent corrosion?
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Bullshipper -
My personal reels have held up quite well over the time I've had them (3.5 years)
I have experienced some minor corrosion on the chrome accents (external), but nothing other than that. I haven't taken especially good care of them...

I just hose them down with the rest of my reels at the end of the trip. Don't submerge, store with the weep holes pointed down.

I'm sure I could ship to MX, but it might be a bit costly.

Hopefully some more folks will chime in, I've had some very happy customers.
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Originally Posted by Frigate Sales View Post
Bullshipper -
My personal reels have held up quite well over the time I've had them (3.5 years)
I have experienced some minor corrosion on the chrome accents (external), but nothing other than that. I haven't taken especially good care of them...

I just hose them down with the rest of my reels at the end of the trip. Don't submerge, store with the weep holes pointed down.

I'm sure I could ship to MX, but it might be a bit costly.

Hopefully some more folks will chime in, I've had some very happy customers.

I am going home to California in 2 weeks, so no problema on shipping a new one.

So you are saying that the push button electrical controls on top of the reel, and the electrical cables also do not require special attention?
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The push buttons are sealed, no issues with a rinse down.
The cord detaches, and there is a protective cover that seals the receptacle when not in use.
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thanks.
any suggestions on a bent butt rod?
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Originally Posted by Bullshipper View Post
thanks.
any suggestions on a bent butt rod?
I've got some really nice rods, but haven't been able to keep up with demand. I'll have more here in 2-3 weeks and will post full detail when they are in hand.

Thanks!
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I have one of these on my list. Hope to own one soon.
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I'll chime in- had mine for the better part of a year. Fished hard... Tiles and yellow edge up to 30lbs. Hooked into some monster fish that resulted in terminal tackle failures. It's probably been on 12-15 trips, haven't had a single issue.
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Originally Posted by Big Iron View Post
I'll chime in- had mine for the better part of a year. Fished hard... Tiles and yellow edge up to 30lbs. Hooked into some monster fish that resulted in terminal tackle failures. It's probably been on 12-15 trips, haven't had a single issue.
How deep and what weights would you say are the average on those trips?
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750'. Almost always use 4lb leads, but was using a 12lb downrigger ball last weekend. Have some 10lb rebar I've used too.
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I have some 500 and 1000 on board and have no problems
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Originally Posted by ksong View Post
Don't expect they are the same quality as Japanese electric reels.
you can say that about your rods also lol
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I've had the banax reel and diawa rod out on 10 trips so far this year and no problemas.
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I've caught over 35 snowy and a few black grouper on mine. Tile fish and some big jacks by accident. Not one issue and will be back on the grouper in two weeks for a couple of weeks of daily fishing with it.
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Here is what breaks - I've got a lot of reels out there now - prefer not to give full sales details, but it's probably multiples more than you would think.

1 - The clutch release lever - don't drop the reel - it will break it.
2 - the level wind - but only due to operator error - I get about 1 reel every month with a broken level wind. Same story from everyone - the line broke at the level wind, and the level wind failed. This is from the line looping around the level wind, and cutting into the level wind body, eventually causing it to lock up and break, typically breaking the line as well. I have not had a "natural" failure of the level wind since the upgrade about 2 years ago.

I've seen a few star drag knobs strip out, but because of sand getting into the fine threads.

I've had 3 reels with electrical control malfunctions.

Not one motor failure, not one drag failure, not one gear failure, not one bearing failure, not one power cord failure. These are common on the "higher quality?" japanese reels... I've actually got folks modifying their Daiwas to use the Banax power cord now.

And, if you do have a failure, my turn around time is typically 1 day, you can't beat it. Also, if you are handy, I am happy to sell parts, and they are quite inexpensive.

If you don't buy the reel from me or one of my authorized retailers, you are not getting parts or service though! I have specific serial numbers for Frigate Sales, I know what is mine and what isn't. Quite a few folks have tried...

And while we're at it, not a single rod failure either.

Don't want to sound defensive, but the durability has far exceeded my personal expectations and I want to share. At this rate I have enough spare parts to last the next 10 years...

And the stories I've heard from some fisherman make me cringe, but the reels are still going.
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I still cant figure out the controls on mine They need better instructions. Maybe I just need to use it more.
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LOL! I can understand.

As long as you know how to reset the counter to 0 - you don't really need the other features.
(Hold down the top left button for about 3 seconds - this will set the auto stop distance)

One other trick, if you have the line out, and accidentally unplug the reel for 5 or more minutes, it will reset to 0. This will prevent the reel from reeling, as it thinks it is at the top. Push the speed lever to full speed, and hold down the jigging button. The jigging button will always over ride the auto stop feature. The speed lever position determines the speed of the jigging button.

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