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Old 02-22-2016, 11:25 PM
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Anyone ever done/attempted it? Really interested in a new challenge and I normally fight fish on the lightest tackle that I can get away with, was thinking cobia. I prefer to fight one fish longer than catching two or three. Anyone know the class records? Was thinking of throwing some light line (depending on the record) on a accurate sr 12 and giving it a shot.

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Originally Posted by Godspeed View Post
Anyone ever done/attempted it? Really interested in a new challenge and I normally fight fish on the lightest tackle that I can get away with, was thinking cobia. I prefer to fight one fish longer than catching two or three. Anyone know the class records? Was thinking of throwing some light line (depending on the record) on a accurate sr 12 and giving it a shot.
Good luck with your endeavor:

https://www.igfa.org/Fish/INTERNATIO...ING-RULES.aspx

https://www.igfa.org/Fish/World-Record-Application.aspx
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I haven't done it but know somebody that has and the process is apparently a pain in the butt
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I did this in my younger days. Mostly 1kg, 2kg 3kg & 4kg line classes.
In order to actually obtain a record, the catch method, leader system and line must meet IGFA specs.
Imo, the only line that will consistently meet IGFA specs and be close to max strength is mono - braid seems to have a lot of variability, which is why you don't see IGFA braid.
In the IGFA rated lines, I always preferred the Ande - not saying others aren't good.
For Cobia, the records that look like they would be easiest to beat are the 4kg class of 75 lbs and 6 kg class of 98 lbs - the 24kg record of 114 lbs doesn't seem very tough if you can find a Cobia bigger, but I don't really find 50 lb line to be "light tackle".
As a heads-up, that Accurate SR12 is the wrong tackle for records - spinning reels impart far too much line twist to fight a fish for a protracted time.
The guys who actively pursue records on light tackle do so with the right specialized tackle - custom made fast taper casting rods that are a little longer than typical 6.5' to 8' with lots of low drag guides and the best lever drag (smooth and linear ramp up drag) smaller wide spool reels you can buy - 1-4 kg: Penn 975 CSLD, Avet MXL; 8-15 kg: Penn 12V; Avet HXW. The super-performance drag small reels are a very poor choice because the ramp up to quickly and are tough to precisely dial in at 30% of breaking strength.
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You'll also need the right boat and the right crew: a flush deck wide beam center console with an experienced captain and a gaffman would be ideal for cobia. But even if you don't set an IGFA line class record being a member of the 10-1 club is pretty special.
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If the above post is correct, you've got your hands full. A 75 pound cobia on 8 pound test is insane. If you can beat that, you're awesome. Get a reel with lots of capacity and a smooth drag and fish open water
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One tip, send a piece of line you are going to be USING for the fishing, get it approved AHEAD of time for whatever line class....
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Wow, thanks for all the info guy . Didn't realize how big a issue line twist on a spin reel was. Thinking sight casting would be the best bet so I could cherry pick the right one. Gonna attempt it with a charter captain who specifically targets them since I never have, I've caught a bunch while king fishing tho. Any other recommendations on reels? I have a few bxl 600s from accurate that I kingfish with that are designed for light line, but not sure how they would cast. The more I think of this, the more serious I get about it so not afraid to spend a little money. Any other tips? Thanks again.
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How about the bv 300? Holds 300 of 20 so should hold plenty of 8, plus has the twin drag and I've been really happy with the accurates I've owned so far. Probably give Connley or Anglers Envy a call about the rod.
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The process is not that difficult, you just need to be prepared.

First, ensure your tackle meets IGFA requirements. The ones that cause most issues are lengths of double and leader, and terminal tackle arrangements, especially hooks.

Second, you and your crew will need to be familiar with the angling rules.

Third, once the fish is captured you'll need to take it to a weighstation or club weighmaster with a set of certified scales. Along with the fish you'll have to present the rod, reel and terminal tackle. When submitting the paperwork it has to be accompanied by the terminal tackle, leader, double and 16m of main line, all intact, for inspection and testing.

Then you sit back and wait for the record certificate in the mail!!

PS any new record has to beat the existing record by a certain minimum amount, I think it's 50 grams, maybe more for larger fish.
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Originally Posted by andosan View Post
The process is not that difficult, you just need to be prepared.

First, ensure your tackle meets IGFA requirements. The ones that cause most issues are lengths of double and leader, and terminal tackle arrangements, especially hooks.

Second, you and your crew will need to be familiar with the angling rules.

Third, once the fish is captured you'll need to take it to a weighstation or club weighmaster with a set of certified scales. Along with the fish you'll have to present the rod, reel and terminal tackle. When submitting the paperwork it has to be accompanied by the terminal tackle, leader, double and 16m of main line, all intact, for inspection and testing.

Then you sit back and wait for the record certificate in the mail!!

PS any new record has to beat the existing record by a certain minimum amount, I think it's 50 grams, maybe more for larger fish.
Good info, thanks. I noticed that I can have a scale certified, can I do that or should I take it to a local scale (if there is one)? Not sure how to find one tho.
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Originally Posted by Fatherof4 View Post
One tip, send a piece of line you are going to be USING for the fishing, get it approved AHEAD of time for whatever line class....
Great advice.

I spent a couple of years flying down to Cabo to attempt catching a WR on fly and was finally able to catch a rooster fish and Jack Crevalle on 2 lb tippet but the line over tested slightly.
I was using Rio IGFA rated tippet too.
I finally said hell with it. It was taking all the fun out of fishing for me, plus I spent a fortune.
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Originally Posted by andosan View Post
The process is not that difficult, you just need to be prepared.

First, ensure your tackle meets IGFA requirements. The ones that cause most issues are lengths of double and leader, and terminal tackle arrangements, especially hooks.

Second, you and your crew will need to be familiar with the angling rules.

Third, once the fish is captured you'll need to take it to a weighstation or club weighmaster with a set of certified scales. Along with the fish you'll have to present the rod, reel and terminal tackle. When submitting the paperwork it has to be accompanied by the terminal tackle, leader, double and 16m of main line, all intact, for inspection and testing.

Then you sit back and wait for the record certificate in the mail!!

PS any new record has to beat the existing record by a certain minimum amount, I think it's 50 grams, maybe more for larger fish.
Good info, thanks. I noticed that I can have a scale certified, can I do that or should I take it to a local scale (if there is one)? Not sure how to find one tho.
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Don't go meat fishing with friends! Hahahaha..

Have fished with a local lady that has crushed light tackle records on a regular basis, but it does drive the rest of the boat crazy sometimes. It hurts to see those 8# seabass break off and swim away!
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Originally Posted by Fatherof4 View Post
One tip, send a piece of line you are going to be USING for the fishing, get it approved AHEAD of time for whatever line class....
You can test your line anytime you want but I don't think you can have it approved ahead of time.
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Originally Posted by Godspeed View Post
Good info, thanks. I noticed that I can have a scale certified, can I do that or should I take it to a local scale (if there is one)? Not sure how to find one tho.
In the USA I believe most tackle shops should have certified scales. Check out your local tackle shops before you need them and make sure their certifications are up to date. If I remember correctly you need to include a picture of the scale and the cert. sticker that is on it.. And everything needs to be notarized. If you are going out of country contact the IGFA. They would be the best source for an acceptable weigh station.
Be sure you understand all of the rules including the paper work requirements.
The process is a process but remember they don't just hand out certificates. IGFA will do their due diligence and if there are any questions they will want answers. Also it takes time. I sent in my application in June and received my certificate in October.
It is a lot of work but I found it fun and challenging too. Do your prep on both ends then go find that fish. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Godspeed View Post
Any other recommendations on reels? I have a few bxl 600s from accurate that I kingfish with that are designed for light line, but not sure how they would cast. The more I think of this, the more serious I get about it so not afraid to spend a little money. Any other tips? Thanks again.
Decide on line class before you decide on a reel.
If you are going light - 10 kg or less, the reel you use will be different than if you are going to pursue the 15, 24, 37 or 60 kg classes.
The keys: to any good revolving spool reel is a wide spool (to keep drag consistent), smooth linear drag that ramps up slowly, reasonably fast retrieve to keep up with the fish, and if needed - good castability.
If you are using 10 kg (20 lb) line, you don't need (or necessarily want) more than 10 lbs of drag at full spool strike with free spool.
There aren't going to be a ton of reel choices, because with braid being the dominant line choice - people want small reels with tons of drag - the exact opposite of what is needed for world records.
In the 8 kg or less category, take a good hard look at the Avet MXL 5.8 MC - it casts really well, has a very smooth progressive drag and good line capacity. Personally I like the Penn975 CSLD better (especially for 2 & 4 kg classes), but its mono line capacity above the 6 kg class is very limited.
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Ive been trying for a 4 and 6lb record for a number of years. Be prepared for many frustrating times!

Having the fish sharked at the last minute or line snapping well into the fight is hard to stomach.

It is however very satisfying when you do finally land a fish on ultra light line even if it isn't a record.
Study the rules and buy the longest gaff you can with a qualified gaff man on the other end
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As noted before you will want to make sure you buy tournament line such as Ande or Stren and have it pre tested.

Some of the smaller conventional reels from Avet or Accurate would be great for what you are doing but those reels are designed to use a ton of drag you may end up with very little movement in the drag lever to stay below 15 pounds the cams on the reels may need to be altered so you could use the total length of the lever. For under 20 lbs you may just use a light TLD as well, but if it were me I would want an aluminum body reel.

In FL prepare to be sharked cut off by toothy critters often.

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