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Old 01-09-2016, 07:21 AM
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On New Year's Day a couple of friends and I were bottom fishing for snapper with white bait near an an artificial reef 12 miles or so out of North Captiva. I've never seen a lion fish before. Anyway, I caught the fish, and in the process of killing/dehooking it i got pricked on the back of my hand. I wear gloves so the prick was slight -- thank goodness. I opened the wound to bleed it. I then peed on the wound as the boat owner didn't have any vinegar or antiseptic. It made me nauseous for a couple of hours and my hand throbbed, but we kept on fishing! The swelling went down after a couple of days.

Be careful out there!! I wasn't, and I paid the price. Luckily I didn't take a spine deep in my hand.
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Originally Posted by northcap View Post
On New Year's Day a couple of friends and I were bottom fishing for snapper with white bait near an an artificial reef 12 miles or so out of North Captiva. I've never seen a lion fish before. Anyway, I caught the fish, and in the process of killing/dehooking it i got pricked on the back of my hand. I wear gloves so the prick was slight -- thank goodness. I opened the wound to bleed it. I then peed on the wound as the boat owner didn't have any vinegar or antiseptic. It made me nauseous for a couple of hours and my hand throbbed, but we kept on fishing! The swelling went down after a couple of days.

Be careful out there!! I wasn't, and I paid the price. Luckily I didn't take a spine deep in my hand.
Like a catfish or ray, hot water helps get rid of the pain. Warm water from the motor peeing could help because you could possibly hold the wound under it longer than urinating on it. I had a catfish spine go through the base of my thumb and no amount of pulling on it could get it out. I had to use a wire cutter to snip it off and left it in my thumb. Got to the ER about 2 hours later and the poison was really hurting all that time. The first thing the doc did was soak my hand with the spine in a bowl of hot water with Betadine solution. The hot water stopped the pain immediately. Then he just got a stout pliers and pulled it out the same way it went in.
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Oh man, glad you are ok!
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Old 01-09-2016, 12:28 PM
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I am not a huge fan of eating cooked fish (love sushi!). But lion fish ceviche and lion fish cooked is amazingly good!

Sorry one of them got you, and I hope you at it!
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I am on the water almost every day and usually scoff at the idea any sea creature taking me out of commission because I am stung constantly. A good sting from a lion fish is extremely intense not like any wasp or scorpion I have encountered or even a man-0-war jelly. I drove a spine into my pinky right into the joint about 120' down spearfishing one day and it was all I could do not to cut the finger off. I still kill everyone I see but I don't pull them off with my hand any more.
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Sorry that happened. I dont think I would have peed on my hand though.
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Old 01-09-2016, 03:58 PM
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For all I know it is an old wives tale, but I had read somewhere urine neutralizes the pain from catfish finnings, wasp stings, etc. It may have been nothing more than a psychological boost, but it seemed to ease the pain.

Believe me it hurt like a mother ... .
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Pardon the language. It seemed fitting

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Lionfish have venomous spines on their dorsal, pectoral, and anal fins. If you happen to get pricked, dip the appendage in water as hot a you can stand without actually getting scalded. Why? The venom is protein-based, and that protein denatures with heat effectively "neutralizing" the venom. *NOTE* Test the water temp with a non-affected body part to avoid burning yourself!! Popping a benadryl might help. And lionfish stings are painful, but not lethal.

If you get pricked by something, do not cut the wound open and piss in it!! This is true even for lionfish! Creative, but probably not a good idea!

If you do catch a lionfish, be careful. You can cut the spines off with kitchen shears, or simply bake the fish whole. The heat from the oven will denature the venom.

Lastly, there is no venom in the muscle, and lionfish are not poisonous or toxic!! Ceviche, baked, fried, grilled, blackened, tacos.... eat more lionfish!!
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Originally Posted by northcap View Post
For all I know it is an old wives tale, but I had read somewhere urine neutralizes the pain from catfish finnings, wasp stings, etc. It may have been nothing more than a psychological boost, but it seemed to ease the pain.

Believe me it hurt like a mother ... .
It is the ammonia in the urine........
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Lol can you describe your "opening of the wound" process?
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Lol can you describe your "opening of the wound" process?
It was a small puncture on the outside between my thumb and index finger. I wanted the wound to bleed a little to get the poison out. I sliced the edge of the puncture with a sterile filet knife point, dug around to make sure the spine didn't break off and pinched the wound to make it bleed. No big deal, like digging out a splinter, not major surgery. At that point my hand was throbbing pretty bad so I wasn't really concerned with a little more pain.

When I got stuck I was hoping the fish didn't inject any toxin. It started to hurt pretty quick. I was surprised by the nausea. I never vomitted, but I felt queasy. I was with my buddies and didn't want to be called the "p" word so I carried on. Catching a lot of fish helped.
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It was a small puncture on the outside between my thumb and index finger. I wanted the wound to bleed a little to get the poison out. I sliced the edge of the puncture with a sterile filet knife point, dug around to make sure the spine didn't break off and pinched the wound to make it bleed. No big deal, like digging out a splinter, not major surgery. At that point my hand was throbbing pretty bad so I wasn't really concerned with a little more pain.

When I got stuck I was hoping the fish didn't inject any toxin. It started to hurt pretty quick. I was surprised by the nausea. I never vomitted, but I felt queasy. I was with my buddies and didn't want to be called the "p" word so I carried on. Catching a lot of fish helped.
LOL the dreaded P-word! That'll do it every time.
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I've gotten stung tens of times by wasps, many times by bees, couple of times by scorpions and none of them felt anything like the sting of my friendly lion fish when I still had one in a salt water aquarium. When I brushed against him while feeding the tank, I barely felt the sting and didn't even realize immediately that I was stung, but the painful night that followed afterwards is one I will not forget. It took everything I had not to go to the hospital. After a night in agony, instead of thinking my wife would think I was manly and tough, she thought I was an idiot for not going to the emergency room. You can't win with a lionfish sting
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