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Old 12-10-2015, 02:19 PM   #1
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I've been fishing out of Palm Beach FL for my whole life and a few years ago I moved up to Port Saint Lucie FL. (Jensen Beach, Treasure Coast) And I mainly troll. I troll the usual blue and whites skirts, to the pinks, all the way to islanders. All skirted ballyhoo. I buy pre rigged double hooked wire. In total I've probably caught a total of 10 dolphin since being up here. But yet I hear about people catching 10 in a day. WHAT AM I DOING WRONG? I went from slaying the dolphin to rarely seeing any.
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Learn to rig them yourself. It is not nearly as hard as people make it out to be. A double rigged bait on wire won't swim very naturally.
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Learn to rig them yourself. It is not nearly as hard as people make it out to be. A double rigged bait on wire won't swim very naturally.
But can't I just buy single hooked on mono?
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It's a process of elimination
1. Are you trolling the same baits?
2. Speed and presentation
3. Location

It's something in what you're doing that's not getting the bite.
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You may be too shallow. Good water and bottom is pretty darn close in in WPB but those same conditions are quite a bit further offshore in Stuart. Get a subscription to a good water temp/current site (Roffers ((ROFFS)) etc) and go from there. Or...do the smart thing and get tuned in to some of the best inshore fishing available on the east coast of Florida...right in your back yard! Go to Snook Nook and ask them for some advice.
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all the mahi are caught off miami lauderdale and west palm...theres hardly any left when they get to PSL.

make sure you go on saturday and not sunday, by sunday all the fish in the water have been caught.

also, try live bait and naked ballyhoo.
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Be prepared to run 10 to 25 miles out and look for debris or other boats on the horizon.
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Islanders are not dolphin baits. A Dolphins will swim past a skirted bait to hit a naked one. If you have to use a skirt use yellow or green. Get some strips out there. For sure learn how to rig a ballyhoo. But with that dolphin are a hungry starving fish so if your in the right spot there gonna bite something.
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Islanders are not dolphin baits. A Dolphins will swim past a skirted bait to hit a naked one. If you have to use a skirt use yellow or green. Get some strips out there. For sure learn how to rig a ballyhoo. But with that dolphin are a hungry starving fish so if your in the right spot there gonna bite something.
Ha! Ok.
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all the mahi are caught off miami lauderdale and west palm...theres hardly any left when they get to PSL.

make sure you go on saturday and not sunday, by sunday all the fish in the water have been caught.

also, try live bait and naked ballyhoo.
Do you really believe this?? Where is that channel where you put the net that won't allow fish to get to PSL?

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Islanders are not dolphin baits. A Dolphins will swim past a skirted bait to hit a naked one. If you have to use a skirt use yellow or green. Get some strips out there. For sure learn how to rig a ballyhoo. But with that dolphin are a hungry starving fish so if your in the right spot there gonna bite something.
I get dolphin all the time just on naked rubber skirts and feathers. Why a skirted ballyhoo may not work? But I do agree that a naked ballyhoo looks more natural.

For OP: How far out are you going? the rips and current will be farther up there for sure. If you were successful down here then the only issue must be the location you are selecting.
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We've been chunking and drifting the weed lines more lately.
Could just be that the two best days to fish are yesterday and tomorrow.
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OP.

Best advice is to charter a local pro for a day (Boneshaker among others). Pay attention and you'll learn a ton. Visiting the Snook Nook is also great advice.

Short of that, we typically fish between the 6 and 8 mile reefs (80-140ft). Just off the Power Plant in that depth is typically good (lots of artificial structure there as well as the reefs). Course you're always looking for rips/weed lines/color/temp changes/birds/debris.

Bait wise, I prefer live bait (get out early with a #6 sabiki and look for a collection of boats inshore) when I find good water. If the surface water doesn't stand out (mentioned above) stick to the bottom structure (also mentioned above). I prefer single hooked naked ballyhoo (swimmers and skippers) with perhaps a shotgun with an islander all mono or fluoro (I'd rather get cut off occasionally by the wahoo/king/cuda than miss a bight all together unless that's the target).

Good luck!
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The simplest answer is you're not fishing where the fish are. You need to spend some time looking for fish; if they're around you can find them by finding the birds. Do not fish until you see fish.
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Do you really believe this?? Where is that channel where you put the net that won't allow fish to get to PSL?



I get dolphin all the time just on naked rubber skirts and feathers. Why a skirted ballyhoo may not work? But I do agree that a naked ballyhoo looks more natural.

For OP: How far out are you going? the rips and current will be farther up there for sure. If you were successful down here then the only issue must be the location you are selecting.
Sorry for the late response, I'll troll for a few hours between 90-140 and gradually make my way up to around 1000ft, and still nothing. By then the baits are just washed out.
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