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HoopNet to catch live BallyHoo

Old 05-27-2015, 02:34 PM
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Default HoopNet to catch live BallyHoo

Looking to catch more ballyhoo and I have heard of large hoop nets that sink and you raise up when they swim over the net. No one seems to have them in stores. Any custom guys that build them?
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Old 05-27-2015, 02:48 PM
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How do you raise it? Why not use a cast net?
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Old 05-27-2015, 03:03 PM
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Raised by a rope tied to the hoop. Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWgAwr1ormE

"supposedly" this method is easier on the bait. Keeps them alive longer. Looks easier than throwing my net that weighs a million pounds and gets me all wet and sometimes the weights hit my engine cowling. lol

The video makes it look easy.
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Old 05-27-2015, 04:53 PM
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If it's good for the mutton man it's good for me....storage of the hoop may be problematic
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Old 05-27-2015, 05:07 PM
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That's what we used on the bridges in the keys and on the piers back in the day.
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Old 05-27-2015, 05:49 PM
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Hoop nets are common in the Keys. Fished deeper, they are great for catching speedos that follow chum down but don't swim up out of the net. Just like the hoos, they want to swim down.....into the livewell!
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Old 05-27-2015, 05:55 PM
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Hoop nets are a lot easier on ballyhoo than castnets. I made one out of an old small cast net and gray conduit pvc, works great on ballyhoo and cigar minnows. Storage is an issue though.
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Keep it on top of your t top
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Old 05-27-2015, 06:17 PM
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Looks pretty simple to build. but I do not have time to make one. I have a large head under console that fits a large inner tube - the hoop should be fine there.

I am in Key Largo, the Yellow House Bait shop said they used to have a guy but he disappeared. Any one have any contacts? Tim Wade made my cast net but said he doesn't make these.
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I bought mine from the Islamorada Tackle Center mile marker 82...i think it was $225...used it for speedos...its not as easy as one would think....got 15 speedos in one scoop once, but usually 2-4..and they have to be swimming close to the boat....they may make smaller one for ballyhoo..ballyhoo never swim as close to the boat
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Contact Miami muttonman, he sells them. Kendall bait and tackle in Miami also had some last time I was there. Both sell them for over 100
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Sounds good, thanks Chris.
Fish Harder - when I chum in Key Largo they get really close but then they circle around. I was thinking I could pull up when they come in for the chum. If this don't work, then I'll keep catching them 1 by 1 with my tiny hook. Kids love it. But it takes a long time.
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last time i was in Atlantic and Gulf they had them. i dont know the price.

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7000 N.W. 74th Avenue
Miami, Florida 33166
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Old 05-28-2015, 07:28 AM
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Miami mutton man sells them for 140 I believe. Seems like the bait has to be very close to the boat to make it work, but I would assume you could get a nice sturdy long cane pole and attach it to that as well if they are a little further away. Usually when I chum they are about 5-10 feet off the chum bag so I feel like it could work.
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Old 05-28-2015, 08:20 AM
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The net I have is 60" net...so its pretty big....and the speedos come right up to the chum bag..right next to the boat....they are really fast. and I think they get smart so be patient and make the first shot count....use a weight to offset the current and keep the net level....
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Can they be caught in acrylic box traps with chum inside them?

Google "Catching Pogy Mullet utube" to see what I mean.
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Old 02-21-2018, 12:26 PM
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we made one last year for pennies. but speedos are so freakin fast and smart to catch.... I think you need something more opaque thn sand to cloud up the chum.. like lime! hahah got 3 after a half hour of frustration..def gotta make the first shot count cuz they don't forget .ugh
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Old 02-21-2018, 12:34 PM
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Saw them at the Maimi Boat show www.theballyhoop.com it folds up in a bag the size of a dredge.
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Old 02-23-2018, 12:31 AM
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How well do hoop nets work on cigar minnows and menhaden? My center console has pretty high gunwales and a handrail on the bow which makes it tough for a rookie to throw a cast net without putting a bunch of dents in the fiberglass.
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Don't know anything about menhaden, but here's how we get cigars- first, got to rubber band small leads to the frame, equal so frame sinks level. You want it down,but NOT on bottom. Start throwing scatter (we use our yellowtail mix) over the net. When they start swimming back and forth, up and down over the area where your frame is,have 4 or 5 golf ball size chumballs ready(we line them up on the gunnel), now drop them quickly 1 after another so they go in the net.Pull up quickly.
If the stars are aligned, we get them.
I do the same thing with the sand mix and balls for castnetting- let it really sink.
12 -20 ft.depth
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