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Old 08-28-2017, 08:23 AM
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I have some 114H's I'd sell if someone wants them. Great NE tuna and shark reels that won't break the bank.
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Old 08-22-2018, 03:38 AM
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Old 09-11-2019, 01:57 AM
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Old 09-12-2019, 04:28 PM
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BIG Senators, 14/0, and 16/0 are what I call big .
as klunky as they were, I caught a lot of big fish on them, also learned not to touch the drag wheel without a glove on!
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Old 09-12-2019, 05:36 PM
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The 10/0 I got is just a narrow 12/0...and I have gotten a few of them in over the years. I have serviced one 14/0 and never seen a 16/0.

For the most part the reels I have shown are the most popular "big" senators.
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Old 09-12-2019, 07:09 PM
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The Senators are all basically the same, if you service a 4/0, you will be right at home in a 16/0.
the big Senators suffered badly from lack of rigidity, broken rings and bent seats were commonplace.
Their weakest point was their open air construction, grease just washed away, gears corroded.
Bridges fall apart, bearings seize, drags corrode and far too small.
Ive seen Senator reels so hot that we were pouring water over them to keep the side plates from melting.
By the time HT 100 drag washers showed up, there were much better reels on the market, so I retired my Senators, those days are fondly remembered, but I’ll never use one again.
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Old 09-13-2019, 06:23 PM
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Tough work horse reels...found them heavy and slow compared to the new stuff....
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Old 09-13-2019, 06:56 PM
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My favorite Senator memory was one of my first times off shore. We hooked into what in retrospect had to be a good size tuna on the 30 fathom line. We almost got spooled several times but ran the fish down with the boat. I put the outside of my thumb against the star drag and got the imprint of the part burned into my thumb for most of the summer. Finally lost that fish. We were out of our league but we lived and learned.....I caught a ton of fish with Penn Senators. One could argue the best reel ever made for it's time....

And you forgot about the New England Favorite HSP..... for wire line.....

Nice work Rick! BTW sending my check for my repairs down to you next week. Thanks!!

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The sound of the clicker on a 14/0 Senator rippin’ off line with a quarter ton of fish furnishing the momentum has got to be the sweetest sound in all of sport fishing!
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Thank you for that lesson TriumphRick. I grew up around Senator reels and could tell a 4/0 from a 6/0 in the dark. I never knew what the numbers meant though.
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Old 09-14-2019, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by dorado II View Post
Thank you for that lesson TriumphRick. I grew up around Senator reels and could tell a 4/0 from a 6/0 in the dark. I never knew what the numbers meant though.
Robert Janssen was the author of that write-up, so I must make sure he gets the credit, not me.

He is known as "Doc" Janssen, and has an extensive fishing reel and manufacturing knowledge. He has helped me in the past as i encountered reels I took on but had never seen before. My mind works logically..many mechanical operations I can pick up on...he is the guy who will tell you exactly why "A" affects the operation of "B"..and how that mechanical operation is carried out..! He posts pretty regularly on Alan Tani's site...
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Late 60's we used to take 4/0's and stack the drag with fender washers. Locke em down with pliers, load them up with 80 or 100lb. Ande . Then go catch Snook off of Gandy bridge with BIG Pinfish 8" +.
Broke a lot of rods doing that.
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Old 09-14-2019, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 4/0 View Post
Late 60's we used to take 4/0's and stack the drag with fender washers. Locke em down with pliers, load them up with 80 or 100lb. Ande . Then go catch Snook off of Gandy bridge with BIG Pinfish 8" +.
Broke a lot of rods doing that.
THAT...got my attention..

In the mid 60's I also fished the Gandy bridge. I would drive from Tampa, go over to the St Pete side and go to the end of the catwalk...climb up on the bridge and head down to the second streetlight. It had to be an incoming tide...

We could catch hundreds of trout using jigs, and the occasional ladyfish. Which were promptly cut up and dropped over the side. We only had Penn 68's....but they spooled a lot of 50# mono...and we would shark fish. We brought many 200-300 lb shark to the bridge over the years we did that...lots of fun times. We had a local bar that would serve us and we bought smoked mackeral dinners late at night..

I was always amazed at the thousands of blue crab that would be floating in and out on those tides in the summertime...

Good stuff, good thoughts!

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Old 09-14-2019, 08:45 AM
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yep. We came over from Indian Rocks Beach.
Used to drop a coleman lantern down on a rope ( had to get the "White gas" from Amaco ) and you would have everything swimming through there. Caught a lot of Big trout too.
We would all chip in and stop at Royal castle on the way over in St. Pete. 24 to a box I think ?
Used to do the same thing at Johns Pass ( old bridge ) and Fort Desoto.
Late sixtes into 70 for me.

Good Times.
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Old 09-14-2019, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Lone Ono View Post
The sound of the clicker on a 14/0 Senator rippin’ off line with a quarter ton of fish furnishing the momentum has got to be the sweetest sound in all of sport fishing!
Yeah, we used to hold the CB mike open next to the 14/0s when they were singing.
That always riled up the Fleet!
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