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Old 07-12-2014, 09:02 PM
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The tool I use to twist the leader doesn't finish the final turn so it leaves it exposed and through the course of a days fishing, it's fraying my braid. Unfortunately it's such a small piece that I can't cut it close enough with wire cutters either. Just curious if there was a trick or something I was missing? Thanks.

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Old 07-12-2014, 09:18 PM
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1. Too many barrel wraps
2. Make a "crank" handle and twist it off to finish your haywire twist. Leaves a smooth finish break. YouTube it
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Old 07-12-2014, 10:03 PM
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1. Too many barrel wraps
2. Make a "crank" handle and twist it off to finish your haywire twist. Leaves a smooth finish break. YouTube it
Got it, thanks. I actually didn't realize the wire was that brittle but I'll go ahead and give that a shot. Regarding the number of wraps, looks like most do the 3-4 twists and 5 -8 barrel wraps...I was wondering what the logic was behind that? In other words, what's the problem with 10-12 barrel wraps w/out any twists?
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Old 07-13-2014, 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by AguaHolic View Post
Got it, thanks. I actually didn't realize the wire was that brittle but I'll go ahead and give that a shot. Regarding the number of wraps, looks like most do the 3-4 twists and 5 -8 barrel wraps...I was wondering what the logic was behind that? In other words, what's the problem with 10-12 barrel wraps w/out any twists?
Because it's not a "haywire twist" ...... ICM
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Old 07-13-2014, 05:07 AM
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Just bend the tag end back and forth along the horizontal plane of the main leader to finish it. That barrel wrap will cinch up and preak. Do a haywire twist!
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Old 07-13-2014, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by AguaHolic View Post
Got it, thanks. I actually didn't realize the wire was that brittle but I'll go ahead and give that a shot. Regarding the number of wraps, looks like most do the 3-4 twists and 5 -8 barrel wraps...I was wondering what the logic was behind that? In other words, what's the problem with 10-12 barrel wraps w/out any twists?

The barrels will slide and pull down possibly causing a failure without doing a actual twist first. Get a haywire twist tool like the Dubro or the one from the new competitor that is similar. Can't think of the name right now. Easy to learn and then eventually you can do them without the tool. As others have said, make a crank with the tag end and a couple turns at 90 degrees and it will break cleanly.
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Old 07-13-2014, 08:18 AM
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X wraps are what holds it together, the barrel just finish it up.
The barrels , like you have it can slide and cinch down making a weak spot in the wire.

5 x wraps and 5 barrels are all I use.
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You don't have to make a crank - just fatigue the wire tag end by bending it back and forth. !Not side to side!
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You don't have to make a crank - just fatigue the wire tag end by bending it back and forth. !Not side to side!
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