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Old 07-08-2014, 07:50 AM
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I have read there are Japan and Malaysian websites that offer shimano reels at lower prices but google only provides me with US sites. Its not that I do not support the fellow American. I just believe in getting the best deals. I am looking into the absolute best prices on
Shimano calcutta 400B and 700B,
Stradic 4000fj, 5000fj,6000fj,
thunnus 4000,6000
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why do i feel another post coming on from someone with less than 20 posts with a link on where to purchase said reels?
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why do i feel another post coming on from someone with less than 20 posts with a link on where to purchase said reels?
Why do I feel someone can not answer my question or at least be kind and curtis enough to direct a new member into the proper direction "Captain".
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Ebay. The variation in prices anywhere is minimal. Buy one of those foreign website reels and you may get a fake
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^^^^^^^ What he said. Be very skeptical is exceptionally priced. If it seems too good, it usually is. Buy from an American company and be sure you're getting what you bought. Plenty of sponsors here that sale Shimano products.

Cheap and quality are two words seldom found in the same breath.
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Originally Posted by Labradorowner View Post
I have read there are Japan and Malaysian websites that offer shimano reels at lower prices but google only provides me with US sites. Its not that I do not support the fellow American. I just believe in getting the best deals. I am looking into the absolute best prices on
Shimano calcutta 400B and 700B,
Stradic 4000fj, 5000fj,6000fj,
thunnus 4000,6000
Thank yall
They are mistaken. Shimano, like many other companies, makes different reels for different markets. One such market is called JDM (Japanese Domestic Market). There's another equipment line for North America, Europe, Australia... Shimano's top line/premium reels are made in Japan, their 2nd tier reels/rods are made in Malaysia.

Buy Shimano reels from overseas will save you $0.00 - you MAY find a Stradic 4000FJ for a little less $ than your local tackle shop -- but shipping and customs will fix that and that $200 Stradic will now cost you more.

For "Reel Nutz", who have to have the latest & greatest, buying direct from Japan is just the price of their addiction.

Buying overseas reels have their own special problem -- parts and service, as well as fraud. Lastly, Shimano USA won't work on a reel that was bought out of North America.

Finally, Shimano reels & tackle are "price protected" here. Reputable dealers won't cut the price -- if Shimano finds out, they'll lose the entire Shimano Line.

Your best bet is to find a local tackle shop and buy there. You may pay $10-20 more for a Thunnus/Calcutta/Stradic -- but you'll come out a head in the long run.

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I thought Malaysis and Japan were the foremost shimano provider and manufactures due to our country ridiculous tax rates???? But I do understand what you are saying. Nearly every site I find with great deals, charges $40-70 just to ship the reel to America.
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Originally Posted by Labradorowner View Post
I thought Malaysis and Japan were the foremost shimano provider and manufactures due to our country ridiculous tax rates???? But I do understand what you are saying. Nearly every site I find with great deals, charges $40-70 just to ship the reel to America.
You've discovered the answer to your own question. 95% of the anglers buying overseas are willing to pay top dollar so they have something unique and different from the guy next to them on the rail... When they're paying $1,500 for the latest version of Daiwa's Expedition - $60 for shipping and another $60-100 for customs is not an issue.

BTW, it's not the tax rate -- it's the labor rate that drives companies to move manufacturing offshore. Shimano makes everything other than Stellas, Tiagra, Torsa and maybe Trinidads in Malaysia. Penn reels that retail for less than $250 are made in China... Every company does that with the exception of the companies like Accurate, Avet, Tiburon, .... I believe all VanStaal reels are made in China.

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Originally Posted by Prop Blast View Post
They are mistaken. Shimano, like many other companies, makes different reels for different markets. One such market is called JDM (Japanese Domestic Market). There's another equipment line for North America, Europe, Australia... Shimano's top line/premium reels are made in Japan, their 2nd tier reels/rods are made in Malaysia.

Buy Shimano reels from overseas will save you $0.00 - you MAY find a Stradic 4000FJ for a little less $ than your local tackle shop -- but shipping and customs will fix that and that $200 Stradic will now cost you more.

For "Reel Nutz", who have to have the latest & greatest, buying direct from Japan is just the price of their addiction.

Buying overseas reels have their own special problem -- parts and service, as well as fraud. Lastly, Shimano USA won't work on a reel that was bought out of North America.

Finally, Shimano reels & tackle are "price protected" here. Reputable dealers won't cut the price -- if Shimano finds out, they'll lose the entire Shimano Line.

Your best bet is to find a local tackle shop and buy there. You may pay $10-20 more for a Thunnus/Calcutta/Stradic -- but you'll come out a head in the long run.

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You are wrong on multiple points. Nuff said
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Finally, Shimano reels & tackle are "price protected" here. Reputable dealers won't cut the price -- if Shimano finds out, they'll lose the entire Shimano Line.

Your best bet is to find a local tackle shop and buy there. You may pay $10-20 more for a Thunnus/Calcutta/Stradic -- but you'll come out a head in the long run.

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Sounds like price fixing to me ?
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Originally Posted by Labradorowner View Post
I have read there are Japan and Malaysian websites that offer shimano reels at lower prices but google only provides me with US sites. Its not that I do not support the fellow American. I just believe in getting the best deals. I am looking into the absolute best prices on
Shimano calcutta 400B and 700B,
Stradic 4000fj, 5000fj,6000fj,
thunnus 4000,6000
Thank yall
Pelagic Outfitters (Chris) is a sponsor here. His prices are below the lowest you'll find on even eBay where the lowest priced reels are usually coming from oversees. Call him for pricing. He can't post the prices online.

www.pelagicoutfitters.com
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Originally Posted by Sneaky Snooker View Post
You are wrong on multiple points. Nuff said
please elaborate.
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Originally Posted by mwgoldman View Post
please elaborate.
That makes two of us. I'd like to hear Sneaky Snookers perspective.....

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There are Japanese market stellas. I fish sustain fg's and they are all made in Malaysia. I order them thru top us retailers. They are not "second tier" reels. And you can find us retailers on ebay thet sell the previous years models at significant savings. I have bought several stradic fj's in the past on ebay. 3000 series to my door for $140.00 from California in 2012. They are price protected , but not everyone follows the rules. They are the exact same reels not "second tier" reels. If you want to know all there is to know about shimano reels. Vist alanhawk.com.He is the expert on fishing reels IMO.

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This is a bit complicated, so bear with me.

To be legally permitted to stamp "Made in Japan" on a product, the
product has only to go through a "substantial transformation within the
borders of Japan". So a product could be made from 100% imported parts
and only assembled in Japan can be marked "Made in Japan". This means
that you should not count much on what your Shimanos are stamped and
instead focus on how they're performing and their actual quality. Of
course each case is different, but in general Shimano reels happen to
have a very high percentage of imported parts that go to both Japan and
Malaysia for assembly.

As for your questions, all Stella reels of all generations have the made
in Japan stamp. Current Sustain FG reels are designated as Malaysian
made. In previous generations of Sustain though there were ranges that
were fully designated "Japan", and others that had some sizes that were
Japanese while other sizes in the same range were Malaysian.

Not all "Japan" Shimanos are first tier. There are certainly models that
come from the Japanese plant that are of lower tiers.
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Originally Posted by Prop Blast View Post
They are mistaken. Shimano, like many other companies, makes different reels for different markets. One such market is called JDM (Japanese Domestic Market). There's another equipment line for North America, Europe, Australia... Shimano's top line/premium reels are made in Japan, their 2nd tier reels/rods are made in Malaysia.
Shimano has long consolidated their SW lines. All of the saltwater reels are the same no matter the market.
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Originally Posted by likwid View Post
Shimano has long consolidated their SW lines. All of the saltwater reels are the same no matter the market.
Agreed, btw the post I made above was directly from Alan Hawk who is arguably the authority on fishing reels.
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Killer&Griller has really good prices. Here's his contact info.:

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910-802-3474 ..... store

910-209-2920 ..... cell

overandunderadventures@gmail.com

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Appreciate your perspective, but there are clearly Shimano markets & sells reels other regions that are not offered in the U.S. Check out the Shimano/AUS website. I don't think you've seen a Shimano BioMaster reel for sale here, or a SHimano Raredium CI4 and others.

I don't think there's anything I said that was incorrect. Shimano's top-tier/shelf (choose your term) reels are all assembled in Japan -- not Malaysia. Parts can come from anywhere.

For some people that makes a difference. As far as spinners go, the reels marketed and sold in the U.S. from the Sustain on down, are assembled in Malaysia. The last Sustain made in Japan was the Sustain FD. The FE was made in Malaysia.

I'm quite familiar with Alan's website and reel reviews. My basic point to the OP was that he's not likely to find a better deal when the transaction is complete (sales price, shipping, customs) than from a local retailer; and if he does purchase a reel that's not for the U.S. market, he may find getting it serviced difficult.

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I'm certainly not going to argue about it. Bottom line is that ALL sustains are made in Malaysia and I think we all could agree they are not second rate reels . I have a garage full of sustains and stradics and have fished shimano spinners exclusively for 25 years or so. This last year I bought brand new in the box exact same sustains and stradics from a California retailer . I have also purchased them from tackle direct. Exact same reels. I got the stradic fj 3000's to my door for $170.00 and the sustain fg 3000 to my door for $270. I can buy the same sustain FG 3000 today to my door for $272.00 from reelsnicetackle. They are without a doubt the exact same reels I have bought thru tackle direct. I decided to use tackle direct for my last purchase as they offer THT members a 10% discount plus no tax and free shipping to florida. I decided to support a THT vendor. These are the facts. Whether a reel is "assembled" in Malaysia or Japan from the same parts matters not to me. With that being said I think they both are excellent reels and I really like the upgrades they have made. Have a great day and tight lines.
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