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Old 07-06-2014, 12:39 PM
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When I fly the anchor and then stop at the next spot, the metal ring of the anchor ball setup gets hung up where the anchor meets the chain. There is not an actual hang there though. I think the weight of the long anchor chain hanging down is heavier than the 25-35lb anchor, thus won't let the anchor fall and ring/buoy slide back towards the boat.

Anybody else ever have this problem? Is the only solution to shorten the chain? I hate to do that since my anchor works so well otherwise. Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 07-06-2014, 12:56 PM
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Run it hard, if the ball is big enough it will pop over and hang.
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Old 07-06-2014, 01:09 PM
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You just need to throttle up when it hangs, you'll see the ball pop up and float free then the anchor hit it and snatch it down.
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Old 07-06-2014, 01:47 PM
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I think the scenario you are talking about is using a ball to float then redeploy your anchor. Every time I have been on a boat anchoring, we never used the ball when moving. Just drag the anchor and tie on the stern cleat. Untie when you are ready to re set.

We only use the ball when fully retrieving the anchor.
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Same here. Only deploy the ball when finished or need to put the anchor in the boat. When searching or moving short distances we just drag the anchor tied to a stern cleat, the flukes on the anchor lift it at searching speed.
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Old 07-07-2014, 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by quick release View Post
I think the scenario you are talking about is using a ball to float then redeploy your anchor. Every time I have been on a boat anchoring, we never used the ball when moving. Just drag the anchor and tie on the stern cleat. Untie when you are ready to re set.

We only use the ball when fully retrieving the anchor.
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Only use the anchor ball to retrieve your anchor. The anchor will be skiing behind the boat without the float.
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Old 07-07-2014, 03:46 AM
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As mentioned, float/ball only attached when bringing the anchor aboard. When moving from spot to spot anchor ball is not used.

I am not an expert but have fished with one and witnessed this. When using the ball to retrieve, the expert had a 3' rope with a ss ring. This rope (much smaller and weaker than the anchor rope in case it needs to break) was attached midship and the anchor rope went through the ring. I believe this midship attachment served several purposes. It allowed him to see where the rope was easier, the boat handled better while dragging 20' of chain and heavy anchor, helped keep it out of the props, and he didn't have to leave the helm area to attach the ball when he was ready.
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Originally Posted by quick release View Post
I think the scenario you are talking about is using a ball to float then redeploy your anchor. Every time I have been on a boat anchoring, we never used the ball when moving. Just drag the anchor and tie on the stern cleat. Untie when you are ready to re set.

We only use the ball when fully retrieving the anchor.
only use the anchor ball at the end of the day when you are putting the anchor in the boat, don't worry, most everybody I have had on my boat the first time I dropped the anchor over the side one of them would run up front with the ball, so there is a learning curve.
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Old 07-07-2014, 05:45 AM
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So when you guys move from spot to spot you just drag the anchor behind you rather than pulling it in?
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Old 07-07-2014, 06:03 AM
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I pull the anchor every time I move, which is a lot. We anchor while bottom fishing in depths of 30'-240' outside of that I motor fish. Lots of people drag the anchor which is fine if you are making short moves.
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Originally Posted by kittrell87 View Post
So when you guys move from spot to spot you just drag the anchor behind you rather than pulling it in?
We normally do this when making short moves. It's pretty amazing to watch somebody that knows how to do this. They can position themselves right over the spot the first time.
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What is considered a "short" move? I feel like Murphy's law would definitely kick in if I tried this and either a. the anchor hook something and rip the cleat off my boat, b) some guy would come out of no where and the rope grab his prop, c) anything else negative that could happen.... lol
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Originally Posted by kittrell87 View Post
What is considered a "short" move? I feel like Murphy's law would definitely kick in if I tried this and either a. the anchor hook something and rip the cleat off my boat, b) some guy would come out of no where and the rope grab his prop, c) anything else negative that could happen.... lol
This is normally done for short moves of a mile or less.

This only works with a Danforth anchor. Drive right past the anchor rope and grab it as you go by. Walk the line to the back of the boat and cleat it off on the rear cleat. Keep going in the same direction and the anchor will get pulled over backwards releasing it's hold on the bottom. As soon as you feel it release you can get up on plane bringing the anchor to the surface.
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Ive got a danforth. I have let rope out with a reef hook on the end of it trying to drift over a wreck and hook it and even at almost idle speeds it was trying to stay up in the water column, so I think it could possibly work with those too. I am just a little nervous to try it. lol. But I have definitely got to do something different than I am doing now as pulling the anchor in and out by hand sucks. I don't even have an anchor ball yet.
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Originally Posted by Bucket List View Post
Run it hard, if the ball is big enough it will pop over and hang.
Mine used to hang up from time to time until a friend recommended a using a larger poly ball.
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I always prefer to get my anchor up and skiing, then attach the ball to the rope and it slides back and jumps the clevis a lot easier.

Sitting on anchor just ease to the bow and see that your rope is pretty straight, not a big bow in it, I start the boat ahead 30 degrees left of the anchor course, the minute I can spot the rope starting to bend back turn back to your anchor heading and go straight ahead till the anchor starts floating up. (by going back quickly to the anchor heading you are not going to run the rope over and you are going to pull or flip the anchor over straight ahead, not in a side load like I see some times) As the anchor is floating behind the boat the rope will usually be off a ways right of the boat, take your time and ease over to it going ahead till someone can gaff and get a line around it and secure to the rear cleat to prevent the rope from going under the boat, then attach your anchor retriever and watch it run back and jump over the clevis, uncleat it from the stern and spin the boat around and pull it to you, if it falls out of the retrieval ring you need a little more chain on it, good luck.
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