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Old 06-29-2014, 10:12 PM
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Hey guys, I am new to this whole deep sea fishing. I am buying my first deep sea boat in a week or two. I am primarily using it for diving but would like to fish as well!

I have been fishing lakes my whole life but when it comes to the ocean, the gear is totally different I suppose.

I will be fishing the GOM 90% of the time. Could you guys help me by informing me on what kind of gear I am looking at buying? Rods, Reals, Line, Lures, live bait, etc.

Also, when trolling, what do I do? How fast, what lure, etc.

Be patient with me, I am new to this sport and trying to learn!

I am looking at buying a members Edge water on here with dual 150's. I think 24 or 26ft. 94 model.
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Old 06-29-2014, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by AmTyd View Post
Hey guys, I am new to this whole deep sea fishing. I am buying my first deep sea boat in a week or two. I am primarily using it for diving but would like to fish as well!

I have been fishing lakes my whole life but when it comes to the ocean, the gear is totally different I suppose.

I will be fishing the GOM 90% of the time. Could you guys help me by informing me on what kind of gear I am looking at buying? Rods, Reals, Line, Lures, live bait, etc.

Also, when trolling, what do I do? How fast, what lure, etc.

Be patient with me, I am new to this sport and trying to learn!

I am looking at buying a members Edge water on here with dual 150's. I think 24 or 26ft. 94 model.
What parts of the GOM?
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Old 06-29-2014, 11:23 PM
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I am by Port Arthur working. So I guess around port arthur or out of Galveston.
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Old 07-01-2014, 12:18 AM
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150 views and no help?

I know somebody can help..
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Old 07-01-2014, 05:24 AM
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AmTyd, You shouldn't expect a very large feed back. The question is extremely vague and open for a lot of different opinions. What's your budget? How rod and reel combos do you want to have? What type of fish will you fish for? What is your experience with offshore fishing? There are tons of other questions to be asked. I would say take a trip to Houston and go talk to the guys at Tackle Unlimited. They should point you in the right direction.
When I had all my gear, it was well into the Thousands of dollars for just a few rods and reels. I had two reels that were over a thousand dollars when I bought them. Do more research and ask more questions. Everyone on here likes to help but there are way to many opinions on this subject to start so vague. Good luck. Stay Wet.
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Old 07-01-2014, 05:45 AM
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Also read websites that are local for that area. In Florida, we have Florida sportsman which has their own forum. Also we have Florida Sportsman books that I find to be very helpful for fishing this area. And some of it is just learn by doing.

Big stick offers good advice, go to local tackle store.

Your post is too broad, just reels alone can be a several page discussion. You will learn everything in time just like everyone on this site did. Best of luck with your boat, I'm sure you'll have many memorable days!
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Old 07-01-2014, 10:54 AM
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I think I can give some excellent well learned advice - I'm also a newbie to this offshore stuff. Went out and spend the 120k on boat/truck and headed offshore to slay'em..... only all I did was burn fuel rolling from rig to rig without the slightest clue of what I was doing wrong.

I have done all the research you can imagine - read saltwater fishing books every night, watch all the youtube I can fit into a workday, and bought about everything anyone recommended including casting rods, tld trolling rods, spoons, jigs, bottom rigs, live baid, dead bait, semi dead baid, chum etc. etc. etc.

Don't waste a ton of money on gear. I would without a doubt hire a guide on your boat for inshore and offshore, different times of year and be honest with him about the fact that you want to learn technique and not chart his sweet spots.

Thats my plan. Only other way to do this and learn effectivly is to invite someone to go on your boat that knows what they are doing and pay their way. they fish free - you learn and catch.

just my two cents.
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Old 07-01-2014, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Powerbait View Post
I think I can give some excellent well learned advice - I'm also a newbie to this offshore stuff. Went out and spend the 120k on boat/truck and headed offshore to slay'em..... only all I did was burn fuel rolling from rig to rig without the slightest clue of what I was doing wrong.

I have done all the research you can imagine - read saltwater fishing books every night, watch all the youtube I can fit into a workday, and bought about everything anyone recommended including casting rods, tld trolling rods, spoons, jigs, bottom rigs, live baid, dead bait, semi dead baid, chum etc. etc. etc.

Don't waste a ton of money on gear. I would without a doubt hire a guide on your boat for inshore and offshore, different times of year and be honest with him about the fact that you want to learn technique and not chart his sweet spots.

Thats my plan. Only other way to do this and learn effectivly is to invite someone to go on your boat that knows what they are doing and pay their way. they fish free - you learn and catch.

just my two cents.
x2 find a mentor. I was lucky enough to have a neighbor who was a former charter boat captain and he was itching to get back out.
I started with 2 50s and $100 worth of terminal tackle. Now 6 50s 4 30s 1 80 4 20s and too many spinning reels to list and over $2000 worth of terminal tackle. Be careful this is an addiction.
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Old 07-02-2014, 01:40 AM
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Thanks for the tips guys, so for now, lets just stick to a decent rod and reel combo.

I want to do some snapper fishing and fish around that area. It would be awesome to land a big shark or some smaller tuna etc.

I am trying to do as much reading I can. I know nothing about the gulf of mexico. Ive been a hand full of times with my uncle before he passed away. His son is old enough now to enjoy it so I want to return the favor and take him out.

I just want to have a good time with him and catch some fish.

There is an academy right beside the plant I work at! Think they would have some good setups? Sorry if I ask stupid questions. We all start somewhere.
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Shimano TLD 30's are probably the best all round do everything reel and are a great deal used. Get a couple of them for trolling and put them on Penn Mariner rods - cheap and effective. You can troll with them or bottom drop.

Then get a spinning setup for bottom and pitch as well. If it were me - I would wait the week or so for them to come back in stock - Fin Nor Lethal 100 attached to a decent rod - you can use for jigging, bottom, and pitch. Again - not expensive.
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Hire and/or tag along with a local capt in your area. They will be more valuable than almost anything you read about. Get a feel of it all through them before you commit to a lot of unnecessary expenses.
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Old 07-02-2014, 08:03 AM
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Once you settle on what you want.. check out the Tackle Direct here... great service and pretty good pricing.. and always check out the specials...
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Old 07-02-2014, 11:17 AM
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AmTyd,
Right now reading and gathering information is the best thing you can do for yourself.
This web site has a wealth of info on all aspects of anything offshore.
http://fryingpantower.com

Free to join. Just don’t try to join using a Hotmail account they will not allow that.
When you get to their web page click on Home, and then on right hand side under Articles click that.
That should keep you occupied for a few days. Best advice is what Samoa Joe said. Hire a captain and bring along a note pad to take notes. You will not be able to remember all they you will learn that day. Nothing like local knowledge. Don’t buy a bunch of stuff until you have had the chance to hire someone to show you the ropes. When you do start buying stuff there is nothing wrong with slightly used stuff.
That Wahoo will not know or care if you are using a Penn International or a cheaper Shimano.
Here is a snap shot of what your offshore stuff will be doing to your wallet. Best of luck.

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Old 07-02-2014, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Powerbait View Post
I think I can give some excellent well learned advice - I'm also a newbie to this offshore stuff. Went out and spend the 120k on boat/truck and headed offshore to slay'em..... only all I did was burn fuel rolling from rig to rig without the slightest clue of what I was doing wrong.

I have done all the research you can imagine - read saltwater fishing books every night, watch all the youtube I can fit into a workday, and bought about everything anyone recommended including casting rods, tld trolling rods, spoons, jigs, bottom rigs, live baid, dead bait, semi dead baid, chum etc. etc. etc.

Don't waste a ton of money on gear. I would without a doubt hire a guide on your boat for inshore and offshore, different times of year and be honest with him about the fact that you want to learn technique and not chart his sweet spots.

Thats my plan. Only other way to do this and learn effectivly is to invite someone to go on your boat that knows what they are doing and pay their way. they fish free - you learn and catch.

just my two cents.
^ this.... I am to that point. I've got a decent bit of gear "nothing crazy expensive" and I have read and watched hundreds of videos and tried things that people say with little success. I am to the point where I will probably be hiring guides and or taking a few walk on charter trips to learn first hand from people that have been doing it for a long time. I think experience is the only thing that gets you experience in this sport. lol. No amount of reading and over thinking it will help.
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You guys are looking at this all wrong! It's cheaper to buy fish. The thrill is in figuring it all out. I know it's tough to come home with your tail between your legs but wait until it all clicks!

With that being said, pm me. I'm no expert but I can put you on enough fish to show your wives that you're actually out fishing!
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actually - you may laugh but I have literally had to convince my wife I was out fishing when I came home with a buzz and nothing else. I didnt even smell fishy (that could have been worse on second thought)
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What do you guys think of these combos? He said one is an all-star rod and other a Seeker. He has two left. Are these worth purchasing? What should i offer him for the last two?

http://houston.craigslist.org/spo/4516224310.html
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Op, IMO if you didn't want to break the bank I would go this route.
two TLD 25's on Shakespear tidewaters, Ande rods or Penn Ally.
two battle 7000's on Tiger light jigging rods.

You can use the TLD's for trolling or bottom fishing. I would back them with braid and a top shot of 40lb test. You can use the Battles, to jig with and or to pitch a bait to a lemon fish, mangrove etc. Load the battle with braid and a top shot. That should get you going for under 1k.

Down the road you can always get bigger and better stuff.
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I understand that you want to buy tackle and that you're very excited about getting into offshore fishing. The best thing you can do right now is to hire a local guide who has a personality that you think you can handle being around and let them bring their tackle on your boat. You'll learn as much in that one trip as you would on 50+ trips by yourself.

A lot of the things in the tackle store are to catch fishermen, not fish. The most successful guides I know don't rely on expensive rods/reels or fancy new lures.
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Originally Posted by PlaneToSea View Post
I understand that you want to buy tackle and that you're very excited about getting into offshore fishing. The best thing you can do right now is to hire a local guide who has a personality that you think you can handle being around and let them bring their tackle on your boat. You'll learn as much in that one trip as you would on 50+ trips by yourself.

A lot of the things in the tackle store are to catch fishermen, not fish. The most successful guides I know don't rely on expensive rods/reels or fancy new lures.
I will second or third or 4th this. You need somewhere to start. You might find that you hate bottom fishing and would rather catch king mackerel. You might hate offshore and want to stay around the bay. Then you will be buying new reels and rods. Call a local charter or guide and let them take you fishing in your boat. Its not cheating. You still won't know what you are doing but at least you will have some idea what you can target out there and what kind of rods work for you. With a knowledgeable guide you can ask all of these questions and more over a 8 hour day.
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