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TorFed 06-28-2014 05:58 PM

Conventional Setup Recommendations
 
Hey, guys. I could use some advice. I currently use all spinning gear, but after flounder fishing today, and needing a 10oz sinker to hold bottom, I decided I need to have a med weight conventional setup. Something for 20-30lb braid. Up here it would be used for flounder, sea bass, tog etc...

To give you an idea of my current preferences, most all of my rods are St. Croix Avids with the applicable Penn Spinfisher V's setups.

Looking to spend $400-550 between rod and reel. Any advice would be much appreciated.

Also, I prefer the level wind to non level wind.

Double tyme 06-28-2014 06:33 PM

Avet lx 6.0 on connley 15-30# rods are the most versatile conventional I've used. Bonus points if you want to match the colors. Double bonus points for being towards the bottom of your price range.

Cheaper setup I used to have before this was torium 20s on trevala rods.

The first setup can bottom fish, live bait troll, and lure troll. The second one is lighter so its better for jigging, but I hate jigging and the trevalas suck for live bait fishing, tips are too stiff.

TorFed 06-29-2014 08:44 AM

Thanks, Double Tyme. Any other suggestions anyone?

CSizeMatters 06-29-2014 08:54 AM

I second the recommendation for Avet. For bottom fishing applications, I'd go for the lower gear ratio reels. 4.3 in the LX I believe. I think you could also get away with a JX or even an MX. The LX is very versatile, especially if you'd like the reel to see a little trolling action.

For 30# line, you shouldn't need more than 10# of drag.

BACKTOTHESEA 06-29-2014 09:07 AM

Do you guys even know what flounder and sea bass are??. Anything over an mx borders on absurd. And low gear ratios:rofl:

If you want a lever drag, sx or an mx at most on a med heavy graphite rod. No reason to spend that kind of money unless your pushing the stick to the limit.

My mx is overkill for stripers and ground fish up here but I had it so I set it up. Over 350 of 50 braid is a bit overkill. I can use it for small tuna of needed.

I do a lot of jig bouncing for bass and much prefer my saltist star drag. The lever drag works well for live lining.

Double tyme 06-29-2014 09:44 AM

I know all about the target species. I grew up in CT fishing Long Island sound. I also know torfed travels to fish sometimes, and I saw his price point. I'm not going to recommend some budget combos when he wanted a quality setup.

I have owned all tiers of fishing equipment. The saying "buy once, cry once" comes to mind when it comes to underweight gear, or anything else for that matter.

I own four Avet MX reels that I use primarily to kingfish. The drag power just isn't there for much more. I'm not a heavy drag guy, but I like to know my reel will perform how I need it to when I need it most (on a big fish). I also own the LX reels, and for a slightly higher price, in a slightly beefier package, I just feel its a more versatile reel.

I have two combos of the setup I originally mentioned. Then four MX on tallus's, and four tiagra 30s and two TLD 30s. That's the extent of my offshore arsenal. The LX are on the boat for every trip. They're just that versatile.

TorFed 06-29-2014 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by Double tyme (Post 6857284)
I know all about the target species. I grew up in CT fishing Long Island sound. I also know torfed travels to fish sometimes, and I saw his price point. I'm not going to recommend some budget combos when he wanted a quality setup.

I have owned all tiers of fishing equipment. The saying "buy once, cry once" comes to mind when it comes to underweight gear, or anything else for that matter.

I own four Avet MX reels that I use primarily to kingfish. The drag power just isn't there for much more. I'm not a heavy drag guy, but I like to know my reel will perform how I need it to when I need it most (on a big fish). I also own the LX reels, and for a slightly higher price, in a slightly beefier package, I just feel its a more versatile reel.

I have two combos of the setup I originally mentioned. Then four MX on tallus's, and four tiagra 30s and two TLD 30s. That's the extent of my offshore arsenal. The LX are on the boat for every trip. They're just that versatile.

I do travel and fish a fair amount, so I would also want it to work for other bottom species. I don't necessarily need anything that will raise a huge AJ. The max size fish I could see getting into it with is maybe a 60-70 lb black drum, and even that would be rare.

Eventually I will get a heavier setup, for now I just need something so I don't have to use a ridiculously heavy spinning rod to hold bottom if I need 10oz on the end.

AquaWhaler 06-29-2014 01:08 PM

Avet makes great reels, but they don't make level wind reels. Arguably the best level wind on the market today is the Penn Fathom LW - the 20 size will fit your needs perfectly.

http://www.pennreels.com/products/re...d-reels/fathom

Since they can be had for well less than $200, you can pair it with a really nice rod and stay within budget..

CSizeMatters 06-29-2014 03:36 PM

AW is right about the level wind, if thats what you are after. If you don't want a level wind, but want to stick with a star drag reel, a reel that is often overlooked but has been amazing for me, is the Fin-Nor Offshore series. I have 3 16s, and love how strong and smooth they are. Ebay deals around $120. Of course, there is the Penn Baja Special, but BACKTOTHESEA will call it overkill.

bayrunner16 06-29-2014 06:33 PM

My Pops was a Delaware Bay flounder, weakfish, black Willy, tatoug, and drum freak. Would have rather drifted for those fish than catch tunas.
He always swore by Penn International 965's and 975's. You can get them both with level winds. He also loved the Avet SX.
He used up to 16 ounce sinkers with these reels with no problems. 6 or 8 ounces were more normally used, but sometimes current and depth down around the old A anchorage buoy called for more weight.

I see you are in Dewey. We had a house on Slaughter Beach in Milford. Do they still catch the drum at the Oyster Beds off Slaughter beach. Man I miss that fishery. What a blast that was.

TorFed 06-30-2014 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by bayrunner16 (Post 6858539)
My Pops was a Delaware Bay flounder, weakfish, black Willy, tatoug, and drum freak. Would have rather drifted for those fish than catch tunas.
He always swore by Penn International 965's and 975's. You can get them both with level winds. He also loved the Avet SX.
He used up to 16 ounce sinkers with these reels with no problems. 6 or 8 ounces were more normally used, but sometimes current and depth down around the old A anchorage buoy called for more weight.

I see you are in Dewey. We had a house on Slaughter Beach in Milford. Do they still catch the drum at the Oyster Beds off Slaughter beach. Man I miss that fishery. What a blast that was.

Yup. This spring a few in the 65-75 lb were caught up that way.

TorFed 06-30-2014 05:34 AM

Any more recommendations on rods to pair?

LI32 06-30-2014 05:37 PM

Your Flounder must be huge compared to ours off Long Island (we get a fair number of fish in the 4-8 lb range, but double digit fish aren't very common) and in very deep water (we don't fish in more than 100') to use anything bigger than an Avet SX, Penn 975 or Fathom 12, Shimano Tekota 300 or 500.
We fish AbuGarcia C3-5500's = at 9.2 ounces there is nothing lighter with the same capabilities. I have 8 of them, and collectively they have caught 4-5,000 Fluke up to 11 lbs in the past 4 years.
My favorite Fluke rod is the 6'6" Penn Torque 30-80, which is now the Carnage CARJG3080S66.
All 8 of our Fluke rods are the 6'6" Torques with AbuGarcia C3-5500's spooled with 150 yards of 20 lb Sufix 832 on a 60 yard backing of 30 lb Dacron braid with a 10' 12' fluorocarbon wind-on.

rwmct 06-30-2014 06:39 PM

My go to outfit for Fluke, Striper and Blues rod, except when using heavy diamond jigs and heavy three way sinkers, is a St. Croix Premier Graphite Musky rod with a Ambassador 7000 on it. Another good real is the Diawa Saltist, but I have never done any casting with mine. I use the Saltist for the diamond jigging and three waying, but they are said to be competent at casting as well.

Rapchizzle 07-01-2014 11:34 PM

Penn fathom levelwind. Great affordable reals.


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