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Old 04-16-2014, 08:32 AM
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What scale do y'all use to set the drags? Anyone recommend a good one? Or how does everyone do it if no scale?
1 scale should be good for all reels right?
I usually tie it to the truck hitch and wing it. But wanted to get it dialed in a lil more.

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I know by feel what I need for the fish I catch but it can be done with a boga grip.
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We use a Manley brass scale with a weight marker for everything from our 20's through our 130's.

Make sure you warm up the drag before using the scale to set it.

With a LOT of experience you can hand test lighter lines, up to maybe 50lbs, and guess close enough for day to day fun fishing, but 99% of guys overestimate how much drag there is.

You want strike drag around 33% of line strength, imo.

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Ok thx
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There are a number of threads on this. Do a search, important stuff that most guys don't do.
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Yea I searched and dug some stuff up, some good stuff. Just didn't see a lot about what type of scale people were using.
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Much will depend on the tackle you're using. If you're fishing 50lbs class tackle for billfish/tuna, you have more wiggle-room than if you're fishing 6lbs class tackle for permit. For that, you need to be more precise.

I've used a 25lbs Chatillion scale for a number of years. They've gotten pricey though -- around $90 last week at Capt Harry's in Miami.

http://www.meltontackle.com/products...ag-scales.html

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Manley Brass Scale is very good for this.
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I use a 100 lb chatillion. I fish with 80 lb test.
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i usually place my drag at a hand pull at around 3 on vsw 80-130 that way i have a lot to play with... I troll so i don't have to worry to much about not setting the hook. It works great for short bill spear fish and strip marlin... Works well on all sizes of mahi and tuna.... I charter CPT i worked with showed me this and it hasn't failed me yet... No pulled hooks or bad hook ups in 4 months
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I adjust based on what reel I am using and what fish I am targeting. I usually pull by hand, and feel.
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Originally Posted by TorFed View Post
I adjust based on what reel I am using and what fish I am targeting. I usually pull by hand, and feel.
good point. Also you have to adjust each time if your going by slight hand pull bc of different lure size or bait size and sea conditions. You don't want to have line coming off the reel for no reason. That equals a rat nest in your reel and a mess of tangled lures
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Originally Posted by Bamaboy14 View Post
What scale do y'all use to set the drags? Anyone recommend a good one? Or how does everyone do it if no scale?
1 scale should be good for all reels right?
I usually tie it to the truck hitch and wing it. But wanted to get it dialed in a lil more.

Thanks
I'm cheap. You know those little plastic-covered dumbells of varying weights found in Walmart? That's all you need. Put a swivel on one end of a leader and tie a slip knot on the other end and loop it over the end of the weight. Attach your line to the swivel and take it from there.

Obviously this is done at home, but if you're looking to change drag settings while fishing and have a lever drag, simply mark on the reel where a 4, 8, 12 pound drag setting is when you're at home.
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^^^^^
I've done this before too. I use them to calibrate my different cheap scales too.

I've got a little blue shimano scale that goes on the boat with me but like to test them on land first. I've got an old yellow one I got at bass pro before they had the interweb that works great too.

What JPK said about warming up the drag is important too.
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Having a good chuckle.

Did I understand roll tide correctly that he's using 80 and 130lb line class for wahoo and mahi mahi? Not sure I caught the abbreviations correctly,

If you stepped on my boat rod in hand and wanted to use it and you'd set your drag by hand firstly I'd throw you a set of scales to set your drag and if you refused to do that you most certainly will not be allowed to use any of my lures and I doubt I am going to waste much time chasing your fish.

Fwiw I set at 25% line class, warm the drag with 20-30 fast cranks with a good bit of drag on, hook my scales to the line/swivel and pull down at about line angle not fast not slow. The tiagra 80w set at 20lb strike scales about 70lb at the bottom of the spool (32kg was what I actually measured with 30 yards of line left on the spool)

I also choose a scale that is of the appropriate size. A 100lb spring scale is not going to read accurately at 6lb whereas a 10lb one will.
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manley brass with the white ring on it.
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Manley and I use gallon plastic jugs of water to calibrate it. A gallon of water weighs 8.3 pounds plus the jug. About 8.5 per jug. My 30 year old scale is still accurate.
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We use 80-130 here bc many of the tuna here a far over 100-lbs. The tuna will hit the same size lures.. so will the wahoo. Our big mahi here aren't those little 8 pounders. Thats the babes or what some call chicken mahi or a snack pack Also why would you use tiny reels when trolling when its common to catch granders and monsters.... Once again i am in hawaii. The next issue with using tiny reels is when you guys hook a small mahi it runs every where bc its taking your drag then all your shit has to be cleared or it will get tangled. i have a 23 foot boat and i can easily leave my shit out there with big 40lb mahi. I can run six lines nd maybe have to clear 2. 6-8 pounds of drag you are saying please spool me. a 5 pound tuna with the water speed here will take line off that. I set my drag like that bc i know the fish has a chance to take it and if i need to adjust it i push my lever forward slowly. This works very well for tuna and bill fish. So have your chuckle and play with your tinny reels. I will let you talk about the one that got away bc you hooked more than you can reel. I know you guys get marlin in Australia so when you hook a monster on a little reel then i hope you have a good knife to cut off your line before you get spooled or maybe your a good shot with a rifle. The bottom two are very small mahi. The top ones are decent size ones. So when you hook a 40-50lb mahi have fun reeling it in with a 25....
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It's ok outrager you can omit defeat and say your sry... If your a good boy will let you cleans my deck and if you finish your food I may let you pay me to work my deck.... Lol for real though plz don't take offense I am just talkin smack lol
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Still chuckling.

Way over gunned for my liking but each to their own. Thanks for the reply. I fish 50lb for most things here, the odd decent sized blue that pops up will give us a good run for the money but our run of the mill marlin is in the 130-250lb range.

Fwiw for the size mahi you show I'd be running 20lb line class as my first weapon of choice - skull dragging ain't my cup of tea. I also find that the lures I run for marlin don't typically raise fish that small...

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