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Tiagra 50LWRSA vs. Talica 50 2-speed

Old 04-02-2014, 02:29 PM
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Default Tiagra 50LWRSA vs. Talica 50 2-speed

I'm looking to replace some of my 50's on the boat. I was going to get the Tiagra's, but I was wondering if there would be any benefit going with the Talicas. I know they are more expensive, but they also have more drag. We do mostly trolling for marlin with lures, but also a lot of wahoo. Sometimes, we also swordfish with them, especially at night. I was wondering what your guys' two cents on the topic was. I appreciate all the help.
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Old 04-02-2014, 03:02 PM
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I have both,
If your fishing stand up,
The talica50 is a super nice reel with a ton of drag and power.
I have picked up small blue and black marlin 350 # ish and there was zero challenge.
I find the tiagra50 to much heavier as fishing on a small boat w not perfect weather to be more draining.
My next reel will be a mak50sea,
I have the 30s and their very similar to the tac50imo
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Old 04-02-2014, 03:46 PM
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I have Tiagra 50 wides, Talica 25II 20II and 16II. The talicas are so much easier to handle and I tend to grab them over the Tiagra's. I would not even consider the Tiagra. (old technology vs new) Go for the Talica 50's. You will love them.
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I'm not completely inexperienced with the Talica's (I have 6 20 2-speeds), but I'm not too fond of the way the drags are. They seem like they aren't the best reel for trolling marlin lures. The drags don't seem as sturdy or firm (If that makes any sense) as the tiagras do. I have several 80W tiagras and I like the drag system on those over the ones on the Talicas.
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I own a pair of Talica 25II and a couple pair of 50W Tiagras...

The Talicas are the future I believe in stand-up. Incredibly light with incredible drag. They fit a ton of hollowcore or braid and are a blast to fight fish on.

80's and 130's have their place for the chair or fighting out of a rod holder, but anything below (50's/30's etc) used for Stand-up just might not have a real bright future with the popularity of reels like Talica quickly becoming main-stream. We all want lighter, smaller and stronger right?? Well Talica has all 3.
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Old 04-02-2014, 04:38 PM
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Are guys mostly fishing the lighter rods, like terez rods, with the 50's? I want to be able to maintain my heavier rods, just in order to be able to troll marlin lures.
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Go to any marlin tournament and look at the reels. They are all tiagras. Keep in mind these are people with 4 million dollar boats who can afford the best reels available.

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Originally Posted by luna sea II View Post
Go to any marlin tournament and look at the reels. They are all tiagras. Keep in mind these are people with 4 million dollar boats who can afford the best reels available.

Scott
I already have 4 80W's and I know they are quality reels. However, those are large boats, fishing mostly out of the chair. I don't fish out of the chair, 99% of it is stand-up. I wanted to see if somebody had the comparison of a 50W tiagra to a 50 Talica, a reel that seems more directed towards the stand-up market.
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If standup is your game then I suggest the Talica. Though the drag curve is a little steep with proper technique it isnt much of an issue. If you fish with novice anglers I suggest the Tiagra. Its heavier yes but proven to be a viable killing machine. I list the strengths of the TA50II as its line retrieval rate and its light design.
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Originally Posted by tater75 View Post
If standup is your game then I suggest the Talica. Though the drag curve is a little steep with proper technique it isnt much of an issue. If you fish with novice anglers I suggest the Tiagra. Its heavier yes but proven to be a viable killing machine. I list the strengths of the TA50II as its line retrieval rate and its light design.
Yeah, I have noticed the drag sensitivity to be step for sure. I don't fish with novice anglers, but I often have people with me that are unfamiliar to the Talicas, and I have experienced them lose many fish because of it. But, I do have the other Tiagras that I can fish if I have other people who are unfamiliar with the gear. The 50 Talicas do seem to have a nicer appeal to them, just because of the drag and line capacity. What rods are most people fishing the 50's on?
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:25 PM
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I would say Tiagras in a trolling situation. Talicas for Stand-up, but the tiagras are good for this too.
The cost difference would point me towards Tiagras all things being considered.
I have nothing to say but good things on the Tiagras.

Drags stay put and are super smooth even at full settings.
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Would anyone care to give some more detail in the drag curve on the talicas (and losing fish due to the characteristics of the curve)...as I am in the process of replacing all of my international 50vsw and 30vsw for Talica 25 and Talica 50. We fish entirely standup and 90% of the time I am fishing with my wife and I think she is really going to enjoy the lighter setups.
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Originally Posted by 76 Stamas View Post
I would say Tiagras in a trolling situation. Talicas for Stand-up, but the tiagras are good for this too.
The cost difference would point me towards Tiagras all things being considered.
I have nothing to say but good things on the Tiagras.

Drags stay put and are super smooth even at full settings.
I'm leaning that way as well after some thought. Have you ever heard of somebody putting the the Talicas on roller-guide rods? I've always had them on jigging setups.
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I'm leaning that way as well after some thought. Have you ever heard of somebody putting the the Talicas on roller-guide rods? I've always had them on jigging setups.
I will get a lot of greif for saying this, but in my opinion, rollers are fine with mono, but I don't find them friendly with braid. Especially the lighter diameter braids.
There are too many great non-roller guides to use with braid these days. i.e. the SIC guides.
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True, but I think if I were to go with the 50 Talicas, I would put 100lb Jerry Brown Hollow Core, or maybe that Hollow Ace or whatever from Power Pro. Just food for thought I guess
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No reason for roller guide rods in the first place. With today's ceramic rings it's just a few more pieces to break.

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No reason for roller guide rods in the first place. With today's ceramic rings it's just a few less pieces to break.
Agreed
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If you not tournament fishing, if the Talica 50 fit 600yds it's more then enough.

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I have several Tiagra 50W that I use with braid backing and 80lb mono topshot, Great Reel, workhorse, time tested and proven, use them for trolling Blue Marlin, standup fight.

Also have a Talica 50 2 speed, also braid backing 80lb topshot, love the reel, smooth drag, much lighter and I use it for Bait&Switch for Blue Marlin, standup.

If lure trolling I would stick with the Tiagra, for bait&switch I think the freespool of the Talica is much better and being lighter helps me out moving around with the rod in hand trying to have the Blue Switch from the teaser to bait.
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I switched all my Tiagra 50s on straight butts to the Talica 50. I have 5 total now. My reasoning was that they are lighter and easier to handle for a lot of the green fisherman I have on my boat. Only drawback is that the clicker is not as loud as the Tiagras.
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