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Old 05-26-2005, 06:47 PM
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My express has outboards and a Eurotransom, what length rods do I need for 50tw's and TLD 25's for standup tuna and shark. Wondering if I need longer rods to get around the motors???
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Old 05-26-2005, 08:35 PM
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the motors are definately a consideration. I would go with a 6' or 6'6 rod. THese are pretty much the most popular sizes. There isnt a single rod for every application but these are the most versatile sized rods imho.
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Old 05-27-2005, 05:00 AM
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6' are the most versatile. Make sure that whoever's at the helm knows to turn the boat, to put the fish to the side when it's close.
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Old 05-27-2005, 01:49 PM
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go 6'0 you can do just about anything with them. i have 5'6's and they work good enough because the familys real short and we have inboards.
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Old 05-27-2005, 05:41 PM
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I would want a rod thats tip will extend past the outboards. i cant tell you if that six feet or seven feet. I dont know the configuration of your boat. you need to stand in the back of your boat with a rod and determine what length you need. keep in mind that there will be a bend in the rod. I hopr this helps.
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Old 05-29-2005, 12:06 AM
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7ft.
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Old 05-29-2005, 04:21 PM
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you put a 100 yft on a 7 ' rod get some video I wanna watch the a%^ kickin your gonna take go as short as you can I use short sticks because I get better leverage for heavy strong fish Your better off working the fish to your beam than your stern practice with bluefish and stripers or whatever is convenient so you have your game plan down when the opportunity arrives good luck
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Old 05-30-2005, 11:00 AM
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If you hook a big enough tuna to put a major bend on a rod , 7ft. will not be long enough to clear the outboards . You can't defy physics the shorter the rod the better for fighting fish . Hook up with a big enough yellowfin and no matter what your rod length is you will get your a%^ kicked.
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Old 05-30-2005, 11:22 PM
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I will prepare to be slammed for this post but there is a moreless "unwritten no-law" for rod builders on stand-up length. 50# class/5'6"-----30#/5'6" to 6'0" ----- <=20#/6ft-7ft. The purpose is to allow the rod to apply enough pressure on the fish to allow the person to still stand and do "tug-a-war". The fishing rod is nothing more than a 3rd order lever and the shorter the rod: advantage angler. Longer the rod:advantage fish. If you are not totally locked into a fighting chair situation then the transom or outboard "reach" can be avoided. Just MHO. Capt. Ron
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Old 05-31-2005, 03:34 AM
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I'm not going to slam you. But why are 130lb Marlin rods 6'10" and above? If we follow your guidelines they should be 4' long!!
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Old 05-31-2005, 05:09 AM
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The very heaviest stand up rods are almost invariably quite short.. 5'6" or less. Chair fishing is a different game cos the rod tip must clear the transom corners when the chair is swivelled around.

Personally I'd agree a 6' rod does give a little bit more clearance.. but if you or your anglers/family members are more comfortable fighting fish with a shorter rod then go for it.. although anything below 5'6" and you may run into problems. Also, as mentioned with lighter tackle like 30 lb class you can go to longer rods like 6' or a few inches more.

After a while you'll get used to working around your boat, as was mentioned, one tip is to try and bring the fish alongside rather than behind the boat.. Another tip is to watch the line all the time and if the line starts to look like it's coming into contact with the boat, simply drive away from the line... This can happen if you've hooked a decent tuna and it ends up hanging deep below the boat and then decides to take your angler from one side of the boat to another.... Easily handled with an inboard but with outboards you'll need to be aware of this and squirt ahead to get the line away and/or make a turn and turn the transom away from the line... Normally a shallower angle to the line helps bring a deep fish up faster, too. Communicate with your angler, and using hi vis line can be a real plus too. There will still be times when you'll wish all that stuff hanging off your transom simply wasn't there, for instance if you hook up something like a 250 to 300 class blue marlin that pulls away from your leader man at boatside and then charges off across the transom... but with a bit of experience and boatmanship you'll be OK. Driving on a fish is great fun. Don't be too sore if you bust a couple of fish off, it's part of the learning curve.

ps. it might be a great idea for skippers here to recount the trickiest situations they have faced with a fish on and how they dealt with them, and how they would deal with the same situation next time it happened.
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Oh yeah, he was talking stand-up. Oops my fault.
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twotems - 5/31/2005 2:34 AM

I'm not going to slam you. But why are 130lb Marlin rods 6'10" and above? If we follow your guidelines they should be 4' long!!
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Not sure what boat you have but for most Eurotransom designs no rod is going to get a tuna or shark around the motors. I'd go with 5'6" or 6' and keep the fish at the side of the boat.
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Old 05-31-2005, 02:38 PM
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Forget rod length. If you are drifting or trolling, just have the man on the wheel keep the fish in the corner. If anchored, get off the ball and do the same.
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Old 06-02-2005, 07:15 PM
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yeppp 5'6 is what i use on 50's and its all i will ever buy. i wanna see someone stand up fishing with 130's or even 80's they way like 50 pounds and having to compensate for that and fight the fish, ill tell you what it takes a pretty damn strong angler. go 5'6 or 6'.
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twotems - 5/31/2005 2:34 AM I'm not going to slam you. But why are 130lb Marlin rods 6'10&quot; and above? If we follow your guidelines they should be 4' long!! :grin: :thumbsup:
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Bingo! Fighting chairs are centered unless the beam is huge and there are two.



After I know I've got a good hook up I keep the fish beside or in front of the boat. It's easier to maneuver and chase and my fishbox is up there too. Two or even 3 people can move around up there with ease to manage and gaff, work the box door, etc. My rods are 5'6&quot; and 6'.
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Old 06-14-2005, 07:53 AM
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Kinda outside the topic of this post but whyinthehell did all of the boat manufacturers jump on the "Eurotransom?" For fishing, they just plain suck. I could see them on a dive boat but they are a paininthebutt for fishing.

I have had inboard boats for years and am now retiring with an OB. What a pain relearning how to fish is.

Re: Length on standup rods. There is an IGFA stipulation as to rod length used to catch record fish.

I once saw Carl Newell using a stand up rod that was about 5' long over all. He kicked butt on some big fish that trip.
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Old 06-14-2005, 08:42 AM
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6 foot max and get an Inboard.
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