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Old 05-18-2005, 03:28 PM
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Where i live we fish for albacore tuna using rapala magnums and yo-zuri hydro magnums and troll at speeds 10-12 km p/h
Most of the times we do fairly well but what pazzles me is that whenever we see them jumping out of the water we almost never get a bit.
Does anyone now the cause of this?
Why do they jump like that?
Is it because they are chasing after a flying fish? (we have a few of them in our waters)
Or is it because there's a Bluefin in the area chasing them?
Or none of the above?
If anyone can give me an answer it will be greatly aprecciated.
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Old 05-18-2005, 05:47 PM
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When we see the albacore jumping, or breaking water it is usually due to them feeding on very small bait. We get a lot of that here on the west coast. In an effort to capitalize on that, I run my smaller sized bait spreader bars. We pull them slower than your pulling the Raps. but load up on those buggers. How do you approach the breaking/jumping fish? IF your running over them or too close in front you putting them down. I pull well ahead of the breaking fish and slow down allowing them to catch up to my spreader bars or daisy chains. When the breaking/puddling fish are somewhat stationary we'll troll the edges, but we won't run over the fish....They're great chewing.
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Old 05-18-2005, 06:26 PM
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Thanks for the info m8.
Very much aprecciated.
Do you use any weight with the spreader bars?
Is 8 km p/hr considered sufficient trolling the spreaders?
I have tryed pulling my lures well ahead of the breaking fish but with very low success.
I guess it's what you said about them feeding on small bait and my 14cm raps zooming by in a distance causes no interest.
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Old 05-19-2005, 10:29 AM
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In the early part of the year (now) we'll often see very small baits in the water and there will be tons of if. Right now we have a huge amount of bait in our area, the albacore will concentrate on those little baits, and you can't get get them to pick up a larger lure or bait. We pull all my spreader bars between 4 and 8 knots, most of the time it's in the 6 - 7 knots, and it depends more on the sweet speed for that particular boat. I don't weight my bars, nor do I put weight on them when I pull them. Each skirts has weight under it. The bar will stay just above the surface and the baits skip along behind, and the chase bait is weighted so it's below the surface 99% of the time. I'll pull as many as 4-6 bars at a time. That can give me from 40 to 120 small imitations behind my boat. One off of each rigger, the corners, along the sides and then down the middle.

You may want to think about the distance behind the boat that your pulling your lures/bars. For albacore, I'm pulling them closer than I do for yellowfin/blue fin...Albacore, unless they've been driven over a lot and are shy, come in close to the boat. IF they're getting a lot of pressure then try dropping one or two lines back a little further. One important issue is matching that hatch. The more offerings you have behind your boat the better. That's one of the reason spreader bars, and multiple baits are so productive. Getting them closer to the size of the baits that they're targeting is important.

One other option that you can use with your Raps is to put them under the spreader bars...then you get the illusion of a small predator following or rising to the bait ball (the spreader bar)

One other point, when you pull infront of puddling or moving fish,,,drop that stuff back a little further, and SLOW DOWN, you don't have to be going fast, just get the baits back to them and keep them moving. Speed up as the fish get much closer. The won't run past what they're already eating. Best of luck in your off shore adventures.
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Old 05-19-2005, 02:53 PM
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Fish Magician you have been a great help.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
I will follow your advices by the letter and i am sure i will do alot better this year

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Andreas, Post some photos! Good luck
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Old 05-20-2005, 04:42 PM
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Hey you guys on the left coast our season for Longfin AKA (Albacore) back east starts in about a month from Va to NY I troll smaller feathers, jets, spreader bars's,mini green machines ect. we troll on around 125 to 250 fathom . We try not to touch a rod until 2-3 are hooked up . Lots of time all rods will go down our fish average about 40lbs the last few years the fish have been bigger we had one last year that pinned our 60lb boat scale. Also where longfin are Bigeyes are so if your out there pullin 30's for the sport of it get ready to get spooled by a #200+ Bigeye. Were just starting to get pumped for the season

Good luck and have a great season
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I would stick a doubled hootchie on, especially if they are breaking water.

If they don't hit,
let those lines out a lot longer, keep your boat farther away, and turn the lures into school leading jumpers.

Finally, the 5.5" rebel articulated fast tracs will out fish those rapalas and hydromagums, at 7 mph, and a wood colored ceder plug would also be in my spread too.
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Old 05-23-2005, 08:20 AM
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Thank you guys for replying.
Next Saturday it will be the first day for the albacore season
I cannot wait
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