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Old 12-27-2012, 03:07 PM
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As some of you know from my other posts I have been looking at several boats to expand my charter business down to Sailfish Marina in Palm Beach. I have heard from others that this would be the perfect boat for fishing in Palm beach and the Bahamas. At 38' with a 14' beam and weighing 22,000 lbs dry it should be able to get out on most days for sailfish in the winter. I know Pursuit makes a strong and well designed hull. I believe this boat with the Volvo 74P motors (960hp) will do 37mph and economy cruise at 28mph burning about 1mpg. It's at the upper end of my price range at about $230K. The boat I'm looking at has 1600 hrs. I'm looking for some input to confirm this is the right boat for my needs. Anything I need to know about this boat? Anything specific to look for in this particular model? There is not too much information online about this model..Thanks in advance!

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It is a syck ride. JEALOUS!
Old 12-28-2012, 08:38 AM
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Love that boat but seems too 'yachty' for a charter IMO. I would think you could get a similar size boat not finished as nicely for less money that would work just as well from a charter perspective.
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Nice boat but 230k with 1600 hours on it? ;?
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Pursuit 3800's are not know to be charter boats......
Old 12-28-2012, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by LongIslandFisherman View Post
Pursuit 3800's are not know to be charter boats......
I guess you've never been to Palm Beach! Consider the location and clientele. You'd be very surprised what is for charter there. This will be the least luxurious and by far the least expensive boats on the charter dock. The next biggest charter boat is probably 10 or 15 feet bigger. This is one of the wealthiest areas in the country. I looked at two of these boats. One with 1600 hrs and one with 1200 hrs. That's not a lot of time for diesels and a good strong hull that was maintained properly. This boat was over $450K new with the Pipe Welders tower.
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The drummond is smaller but more geared towards fishing
Old 12-29-2012, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ThreeLittleFish View Post
I guess you've never been to Palm Beach! Consider the location and clientele. You'd be very surprised what is for charter there. This will be the least luxurious and by far the least expensive boats on the charter dock. The next biggest charter boat is probably 10 or 15 feet bigger. This is one of the wealthiest areas in the country. I looked at two of these boats. One with 1600 hrs and one with 1200 hrs. That's not a lot of time for diesels and a good strong hull that was maintained properly. This boat was over $450K new with the Pipe Welders tower.
You're right, you're going to be more familiar with what your clients are going to want in a boat than anyone else. As for the reputation of the 3800, I have heard nothing but positive things. However there aren't a ton of them out there. If you want to expand your search you could include the tiara 3800 which is practically the same boat.
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Originally Posted by ThreeLittleFish View Post
I guess you've never been to Palm Beach! Consider the location and clientele. You'd be very surprised what is for charter there. This will be the least luxurious and by far the least expensive boats on the charter dock. The next biggest charter boat is probably 10 or 15 feet bigger. This is one of the wealthiest areas in the country. I looked at two of these boats. One with 1600 hrs and one with 1200 hrs. That's not a lot of time for diesels and a good strong hull that was maintained properly. This boat was over $450K new with the Pipe Welders tower.

Yeah I was gonna say you have to know the clientele of Palm Beach, one of my dads best friends keeps a 72' Lazaro Yacht down there with a brand new 327 Intrepid as his Tender and his Viking. ( I ONLY WISH ONE DAY) but I have been there several times and the amount of $$$$ in the boats around there, sometimes you are going to need to bring them out in comfort and style. Me I'd rather drink 20 beers and pass out in the back on a bean bag
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I do not represent the Pursuit product line, but I do own one !! I have a 3400 Pursuit, the little brother of the 3800. I brought mine back to NJ from Sarasota a few years back. The motors in my boat were tired, so I repowered with a pair of 370B Cummins. The 3800 would be a great fit in your area of PB. The boat is build on a modified V hull and has a nice ride. It is a great chunking platform and a good trolling platform. There is a fair amount of wood in the topsides. I experienced water intrusion around a few of the tower legs and had to do some repairs and also replace the headliner in the cabin. Pipe Welders build a strong and beefy tower. Those Volvo's are great motors, they are heavy motors for their size, but run very strong. Engine room access on the 38 is good. I think your clients would like the way the boat was finished. The price seems about right. A good survey will tell you any major mechanical problems, have the oil analyzed also. Cooling system maintenance on the Volvo's is very important. All that mass of cast iron likes to be run at the proper temp. It does not have the appearance of a offshore battlewagon, but let me tell you, it will do just about anything you want it to. I think it would be a perfect fit for your area. Great boats, its a shame Pursuit has done away with the midsized diesel express, many companys have recently. Any questions please shoot me a PM, be happy to discuss. If the Pursuit deal falls thru, I have a nice 42 Viking Express with pods that you would love. !!! Best of luck..........
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Before you even think about buying a boat and running it out of sailfish give a couple of those guys a call and see what there business has been like. Daily rate is around 1300 + gogs at $80 a dozen, they are all hurting. Some fish pretty much but nothing like they used to. Not trying to be "that guy" but this is the reality as we fish palm beach and I am friends with a bunch of the guys.

As far as the boat goes 1600 hours is not a lot but you need to consider the wear and tear charters put on a boat. I have seem them break stuff I never knew could be broken. I would look for a MUCH simpler boat of the same size.
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Great boat, my buddy traded his in for a Cabo and I liked his Pursuit better. I'm sorry I didn't buy his.
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Originally Posted by sailfish18 View Post
Before you even think about buying a boat and running it out of sailfish give a couple of those guys a call and see what there business has been like. Daily rate is around 1300 + gogs at $80 a dozen, they are all hurting. Some fish pretty much but nothing like they used to. Not trying to be "that guy" but this is the reality as we fish palm beach and I am friends with a bunch of the guys.

As far as the boat goes 1600 hours is not a lot but you need to consider the wear and tear charters put on a boat. I have seem them break stuff I never knew could be broken. I would look for a MUCH simpler boat of the same size.
I can't go into specifics now because the final decision hasn't been made yet but I'm going to be far lower than $1300 for a full day. I plan on being in the $900-$1000 range for a full day. My experience from running my Everglades for charter is that no more wear and tear is put on it than would be if I were using it myself. I never had a customer damage my boat. Worst thing that ever happened to me was the anchor fell off while running out because the swivel pin holding it on snapped in half. Lost a $700 stainless anchor! That would have happened for charter or not. I can't give away my business plan BUT.... I'm hoping and fairly confident that the same success I have had with it in Sebastian will work in Palm beach as well. No reason why it shoudn't.

I'm not claiming or planning to take Palm Beach by storm.... I've been doing this for a while and I think there is room for me there. I could be very wrong!

My offer was accepted today by the seller today for far less than the $230K he was asking. So next step is a survey and sea trial.
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Congrats on the boat hope the sea trial and survey are good. I was not aware you were already in the charter business, I'm sure you'll be fine. The lower prices are going to be a great start
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Best of luck with the 38, your gonna love that boat. Any dealings I ever had with the Pursuit factory went smooth. Hope your survey goes well.
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Originally Posted by sailfish18 View Post
Congrats on the boat hope the sea trial and survey are good. I was not aware you were already in the charter business, I'm sure you'll be fine. The lower prices are going to be a great start
Thanks Sailfish.... If you see us down there stop over and introduce yourself.

Best of luck with the 38, your gonna love that boat. Any dealings I ever had with the Pursuit factory went smooth. Hope your survey goes well.
I have my fingers crossed. The boat was pretty dirty when I saw it. Like it was neglected for a while. The owner lost interest. It hasn't been detailed for some time. There was a fair amount of oxidation on the hull, soot etc. But when I crawled around the structure seemed sound, engine room and bilge were the cleanest parts of the boat. He has all his records from the Volvo dealer who maintained his motors. His other records are with the Pursuit dealer who is also the broker. This is a one owner boat. I hope they don't find anything major! If not just a detail and some fresh bottom paint and this boat will show as new.
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I can't go into specifics now because the final decision hasn't been made yet but I'm going to be far lower than $1300 for a full day. I plan on being in the $900-$1000 range for a full day. My experience from running my Everglades for charter is that no more wear and tear is put on it than would be if I were using it myself. I never had a customer damage my boat. Worst thing that ever happened to me was the anchor fell off while running out because the swivel pin holding it on snapped in half. Lost a $700 stainless anchor! That would have happened for charter or not. I can't give away my business plan BUT.... I'm hoping and fairly confident that the same success I have had with it in Sebastian will work in Palm beach as well. No reason why it shoudn't.

I'm not claiming or planning to take Palm Beach by storm.... I've been doing this for a while and I think there is room for me there. I could be very wrong!

My offer was accepted today by the seller today for far less than the $230K he was asking. So next step is a survey and sea trial.
none of my business but moving into a new area and undercutting the local chater fleet isn't going to make you any friends.

aside from that you won't make any money either, especially with a $200k boat.


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Originally Posted by luna sea II View Post
none of my business but moving into a new area and undercutting the local chater fleet isn't going to make you any friends.

aside from that you won't make any money either, especially with a $200k boat.


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I'm not undercutting anyone. I'm selling my product for what I need to in order to make a profit. The dock is filled with larger boats. I'm giving people the option to get out fishing for less money on a smaller boat. I'm not interested in making friends! It's not the first day of kindergarten.

You know what they say about opinions!
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I have the same boat and this will be my 4th season. Great boat and quality construction. My only complaint was the size of the fishbox in the floor and the insulation on it. No other complaints rides great.
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Check out the Volvo service in the area. Not sure what their track record is around our area. I think you have a good business plan for that marina and fishing ground. There is a lot of teak varnishing there that has to figure into the cost of a charter. I think the boat is a good choice, but I am not sure about the Volvos. Keep us posted. Good luck!

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