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Old 07-13-2012, 10:11 AM
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I have a question about using a rubber band with a downrigger. I believe I want to try using a rubber band clipped into my pinch release for hopefully better hookups.
The question - I normally fish about 30-50 feet behind my weight. Using a rubber band, I would make a half hitch, attaching it to the line and then attach the band to the release.
So when (if) I catch a fish, what happens when I am reeling it in and I get to the rubber band ? I was reading one method of connecting the rubber band to the fishing line and it said to wrap the line around your hand 3 times and then attach the r.b. with a half hitch - seems that would keep the r.b. from being able to slide when it reached the tip of my rod ? As the fish would still be 30-50' out.....?

If I somehow attach the r.b so it will slide when it gets to my rod, wouldn't that allow it to slide in the water - meaning if I let it out 30', it could end up being a 100 yards back if it started sliding.

I am sure I am making this way too complicated. Any info is appreciated.
I bought the downrigger last year but never really used it much, I am planning on working it hard here so I can get to know how to use it better.
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Old 07-13-2012, 10:19 AM
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Reel in the rubber band and let it go onto the spool. When you put the rod back in the water, you can remove the old one.
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When I use rubber bands I put them into a blacks release set fairly tight, I want the fish to have to pull hard enough to break the band when they hit. I have never used rubber bands with a pinch pad release, I think it will work but I doubt it will give more solid hook-ups. If you want a more solid hook up then you need more tension on the release before it releases. Black's releases are good for this as they can be adjusted easily.

another way to do a rubber band release would be to take two large sturdy snap swivels and a bit of heavy mono and make up a little "leader" type of deal. one snap on the ball, one for the rubber band, cheap and you probably have the stuff to try this out without spending cash.

you can use a simple half hitch if you are putting it onto mono, but the wrap around your hand thing works better with braid. when you do the wrap around your hand thing the fish will pull the loops out of the main line and (usually) the band will come undone and fall off while you are fighting the fish.

as dreamin notes you can simply reel up the band onto the spool and then take care of it while you reset the line if you need to.

its actually pretty simple so just tie one on and give it a shot.

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you could try wrapping the rubber band around your line twice then clamping both ends in the release...upon release the band will just go away...the tension on the band will more than likely keep it from slipping as effectively as a half hitch...
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Scotty release clips,they have two settings.

Local tackle shop has buckets full of them, real popular. Or should I say reel popular?
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I am not very happy with either the Scottie or the Cannon releases when trolling over 4 knots

Instead I use rubber bands . . . Tie onto the line and then attach to a longliner clip . . . easier to use than either brand of release and less expensive

If over 5.5 knots and with larger lures I use two rubber bands . . . sorry but I don't remember what size I use (diameter) but the are about 3 inches long so they are easy to work with
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Why do you need a rubber band with a DR clip?
Are you putting a few as many as 10 turns in your running line, before clipping it into the DR clip?
On Penn DR clips you can adjust the tension, by either placing running line with turns in the on the front edge for less pressure or further back for more holding pressure.
Understand the large gem paper clips with rubber band for using multiple paper clips when keeping the DR in the water after each strike ......

Pictured is what I made up to keep the DR ball in the water to prevent gel coat dinks. It's much easier to use than having to deal with a 10# weigh with the clip attached to it's rear in a rocking sea ...... ICM
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Forget or remove your release clip. Drop your DR Ball to the depth you want it. Drop your line back the distance you want it behind the ball and wrap a rubber band around your fishing line 6 times. Place both end loops of the rubber band in a metal shower curtain ring. Place the shower curtain ring around your DR line and let it back/down. THe water pressure will slide teh clip down the DR line until it hits the ball. When a fish hits, it will break the rubber band and it will fall away. No need to even raise the DR unless it's in the way of fighting the fish. TO send out a new bait, use anotehr clip and retrieve all the clips at the end of the day. I use a #32 or 33 for most fish, #16 for kingfish or smaller Dolphin and Black Fin Tuna
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Originally Posted by Jack Hexter View Post
Forget or remove your release clip. Drop your DR Ball to the depth you want it. Drop your line back the distance you want it behind the ball and wrap a rubber band around your fishing line 6 times. Place both end loops of the rubber band in a metal shower curtain ring. Place the shower curtain ring around your DR line and let it back/down. THe water pressure will slide teh clip down the DR line until it hits the ball. When a fish hits, it will break the rubber band and it will fall away. No need to even raise the DR unless it's in the way of fighting the fish. TO send out a new bait, use anotehr clip and retrieve all the clips at the end of the day. I use a #32 or 33 for most fish, #16 for kingfish or smaller Dolphin and Black Fin Tuna
this man knows what he is talking about. The only quibble that I would have is that I only use #32 bands for slow trolling and #64 for high speed. I use a large planar rather than a lead ball. Forget the clips, use the rubber bands and shower curtain rings. Works great and they are cheap!

BTW, at the end of the day, I might have 15 shower rings on top of the planar so take plenty of shower curtain rings.

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Old 07-15-2012, 08:34 PM
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we use circle hooks on our baits on the downrigger for juvenile black marlin, which require a bit of dropback & freespool sometimes, some like rubberbands,i dont, but have successfully used them on blacksclips by just wrapping a 2 or 3 inch small band around the line about 4 times and clip both loops into the lightly set clip, it should work with a pinch clip as well, bit of mucking around getting the setting right, remembering the band will be thicker than your mainline, however if your fishing with j`s on strike, then the curtain ring idea is the way to go, remembering that your band will only partially set your hooks, so dont let too much slack or line out as this will give the fish slack line as well, ... i hpoe this helps you

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