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Old 05-29-2012, 06:56 PM
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Capt. Mark Futch of the charter boat Sitaraw has been producing videos of the catch and release of tarpon cought in Boca Grand Pass on jigs. He produced a video that shows a dead tarpon washed up on the beach that has been dead for days trying to claim that the jig fisherman were to blame for it's death that day. The PTTs was having a Memorial Day Celebration and he pays tribute to all of our Veterans by paying for a plane to fly over pulling a banner to disrupt the service. Where does this guy come from. The PTTS rules state you must use circle hooks in all of there events. He claims these hooks snag fish but when he charters he uses J hooks. Now which hook will snag a tarpon. Come on Mark are you for real. This guy ranks along side the likes of PETA wanting to stop all ig fishing. Let me guess you want the pass all to yourself. Lets put out of work all the hard working guides who follow all the rules, fish both live bait and artificial. Taking about the sport of fishing you set your clients hooks with the 350hp inboard motor and drag the fish until he rises so there is no chance for him to get away. When will these self serving people stop poisoning the truth for self gain.
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i have heard about this. do you have a link to the youtube video?
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OP-- nice first post. Write someones full name, business name, then drag them thru the mud. I don't know the guy or have a side on the issue, but I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate anonymous people signing up for forums then writing stuff about you.

I'm sure you'll cut n run. Good luck on your slander campaign.
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WTF?? Take this crap somewhere else, 1 time poster. More hateful spam.
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OP-- nice first post. Write someones full name, business name, then drag them thru the mud.

He thinks the good Captain is a douche, feel free to disagree if you know the guy, the OP seems to ... ;?
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Griffin are you kidding me. Just because this is my first post I cant tell others of a wrong that is happening in our fishing world. It made me mad enough that this man would send out so much bad information for self gain and try to stop fishing in our area. If this was going on in your area I would want to know to try to help you out so we see no more non fishing zones and change of rules based on bad or no science. If we let these people continue we will not have a place to fish or so much regulation will be placed on us that it will no longer be enjoyable. We all get started sometime I wish my first post was not about a man/group that sends out misleading information to stop others from enjoying our natural resources.
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Every now and then I stand up on my hind legs and say something a bit controversial.... in doing so I always put my name and contact info right up front.

You might want to consider that for your "first post", otherwise don't expect many to pay much attention at all....
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anyone have the youtube link?
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got it.


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lol Tarpon Honkey AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAH love the nic, whatever he says must be true with that name. Ah made my eyes water
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well that video does not show the entire truth I don't believe. That big fish that was up on the beach looked like it was hit by a shark. Not gutted with a knife to sink. That will happen if yer fishing for them or not. A shark has gotta eat.

Second I only saw one dead Tarpon. not 18.
I thought that there was a spawn in Bahia Honda during may? Big fish down there
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Well know,
I have to say I have fished only live bait down in the pass..

I can also say the live bait guides use way bigger gear, horse the fish up with the boat, and typically use less time in the fight.

That being said, I have never done the jig thing so I dont have a personal experience but i have seen enough of the ptts to know that when im on the tracy lynn with willy mills im not gonna use some saltist 50 2 speed...

Doesnt the PTTS require each fish to be tagged that is weighed? So while not conservation minded, well within the law?

Seems like a good factual arguement, if you could prove the fish found were hooked from the ptts anglers.
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I love live baiting for tarpon but after seeing how others jig for them i dont know if that is sport or cheating. Does snagging a fish count? Just wondering.
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ive never seen one SNAGGED!
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this isn't a black drum in 3ft of water tossing a big leaded treble hook here. you know how lucky your hook set would be to snag a fish in that much current?
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I have fished the pass a lot with both live bait and jigs. How do you snag a fish with a circle hook and in the mouth? Fish are not snagged with jigs.
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What actually is "jigging" for tarpoon? the reason I ask is because from the video it seems like they are throwing out something like this (http://www.huntfishsupply.com/Portal...Gaff%20006.jpg) and waiting for it to snag something (which is completely unsporting)
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Yeah I don't get this whole "snagging" claim... If they don't snag fish this guy just lost all his credibility.

I will say that circus is not my cup of tea, but when it's on TV I can just change the channel. My right to do so and I don't b*tch about it, just choose not to watch.

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I have fished the pass about a dozen times with one of the PTTS captains who is a friend of mine. It's been about 4 years since I've been down there though. We always fish during the week and always using jigs. Of all the fish brought to the boat, I never saw one snagged, unless it happened to snag them in the mouth perfectly. I've seen the big sharks but never had a released fish attacked. Not saying it couldn't happen deeper, but I have never seen it. I don't know how bad it is now, but there has always been a rivalry between the live bait and jig guys down there.
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I don't fish that area (and wouldn't if at all possible since it's my idea of "tarpon hell"). Since my stomping grounds are to the south (I fish the Everglades) where you seldom see other boats at all the thought of fishing in a very crowded and competitive pass really puts me off.

My take on the live bait - jig controversy is pretty simple. Fishing with artis at that location directly threatens the live bait fishery which has been there for years and years. Because of that (differences in approach, boat size, gear, etc.) some live bait guys have gone to extreme lengths to try and stop the lure fishery there (even getting the state involved, if you can believe it). Glad that's a problem my anglers will never face.

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