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Old 01-31-2012, 09:22 AM
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I am thinking of making some 3lb and 5lb deep drop weights. Anybody know where to buy a mold?

I would really prefer to make my own mold, but am unsure how to do this. Anybody have a link or suggestions? Thanks!
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Old 01-31-2012, 10:34 AM
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First things first - do you have any experience pouring lead? If not, you might want to learn from folks who know how to do this - safely!

Making lead weights may sound like a great idea, but if you are just making them for yourself you might just want to buy them - it will be cheaper in the long run. The other factor is safety. Handling hot lead can be dangerous.

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Yeah, I have read up on it some. I dont plan on making all my weights, just the deep drop ones. I was thinking of making a mold, maybe using just the ground. I could get some Georgia red clay, and make a mold in it, and just poor the lead into the clay.

I have read up about inhaling the lead vapors...
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Some people use sand molds, aluminum cans, home made molds using pipe. There are really any number of ways to produce these weights depending on what you are looking for and how you do it.

I had Shawn Collins make me a custom mold to make 1-15lb DD weights which adjusts in 1lb increments. I generally pour alone so the mold is easier for me to use and produces a more consistent finished product. The mold is expensive but very high quality and will pay for itself quickly considering leads are selling for north of $3/lb.
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Here is a link where it was discussed more in depth.

http://www.thehulltruth.com/sportfis...p-molds.html#b
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I was thinking about trying to make some DD weights myself....I have about eight dead batteries in my garage....thought about neutralizing the acid and draining them then cracking them open to get the plates out. Gotta be about two hundred pounds of lead in all those old batts.

No idea about what to use for a mold either....?
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Originally Posted by Biloxi Regulator View Post
Some people use sand molds, aluminum cans, home made molds using pipe. There are really any number of ways to produce these weights depending on what you are looking for and how you do it.

I had Shawn Collins make me a custom mold to make 1-15lb DD weights which adjusts in 1lb increments. I generally pour alone so the mold is easier for me to use and produces a more consistent finished product. The mold is expensive but very high quality and will pay for itself quickly considering leads are selling for north of $3/lb.
X2 Shawn make excellent molds.
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I hadn't priced deep drop weights before but there is one supplier selling them for $2.50/lb. Scrap lead at a salvage yard in my area is going for $1/lb - you might want to check out what the prices are in your area.

As far as a mold goes - take a look around. I have heard that Shawn Collins does great work, but folks have reported some serious problems as far as his customer service. I have NOT had any experience with him - that is just what I have seen from several posters on another site.

Notdeankane - I pour jigs and I use plumbers lead or sheet lead that I buy from a salvage yard. I think salvaging lead from batteries is a different story. You might want to check it out with folks who have first hand knowledge in doing that - unfortunately, I don't.

As far as safety, the other thing you guys want to watch out for are burns. That sounds pretty obvious, but there are hidden dangers. For example, all lead should be added to a cold pot. Adding lead to a hot pot can be dangerous - trapped moisture or other substances (i.e some lubricants) can cause a min-explosion that can spatter hot lead.

When working with hot lead "saving face" is more than just an expression.

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Just for the sake of illustrating what I was discussing above, I cut and pasted this from another site. This is a comment by a guy who pours on a very regular basis.

"This may not happen often, but today when I (gently) dropped an ingot into the melt pot I got a nasty splatter which resulted in some burns on my bare arm. Like many of you I learned the hard way many years ago to be careful to keep everything going into the pot dry. Wondering what the f*** happened I looked in the pot and saw the blackened remains of a small moth that must have been stuck to the ingot and exploded in the melt. Thank God it wasn't a bigger bug! "


I don't mean to imply that it is a deadly pursuit - I do it all the time. However, take the time to learn safety.

One note - I have seen guys post that they keep a fire extinguisher next to the lead pot. DO NOT DO THIS! That will cause a MAJOR explosion. A bucket of sand is a good alternative.


Damn, I am probably starting to sound like someone's mother!


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I can get the lead for free from my friend who owns a tire shop, but I think thats some dirty lead. I can get good lead from my cousin who owns scrap metal shop for about $0.35 p/lb.

It could save me lots of $$$$ in the long run
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Getting the lead safely out of a battery isn't a simple proposition; that was one of my messiest failures. I've been pouring bullets, jigs, spoons, and sinkers for many, many years. A few safety precautions have saved my eyes and prevented burns...
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Just get yourself some old scrap aluminum pipe and pour the lead straight into them, make sure they are bone dry though.

Before the lead solidifies put a LP longline snap or loop of SS wire in the top.

I had a couple of old bent up aluminum scaffold poles in 2" and made loads of deep drop leads of varying weights depending on how long I cut the pipe.

I made a jig with an 8" concrete block to sit the pipe in, the pipe is held firmly in place with a piece of plywood with a cut out for the pipe to locate through and is perfectly safe.
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Using tire weights is not a bad idea as I use them all the time. Tire weights are mostly considered hard lead as it has a lot of other metals in it than just lead. I went to Merchant and Firestone to ask them if I could have some tire weights and they said they have a contract with Interstate Batteries that they pick them up, clean them, then use them in their batteries. Tire weights are also dirty and require some cleaning prior to them being pored.

I called around to all the scrap metal yards in my area and found one that had just got in some sheet lead from a torn down hospital. This is really soft, but mixed with some tire weights it pours easily and is nice and strong.

Depending on how big a DD weight you want, my friends just chop the top off a soda can and fill it to the desired height. Use a bent coat hanger or insulation hanger for an eye.

I have to suffered from numerous burn at one time from water getting in a pot of liquid lead, be careful.

I purchased molds for everything I fish with, not to save money, but to make what I want and to have it on hand anytime I need it.

You could always buy a trolling sinker mold and only put one eye in the mold or use two eyes and then troll with it or use it for Deep Dropping.
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Red Bull cans work well too.
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Wear goggle and welding gloves...do it outside...pretty easy and saves $$$...make my own every year or so....if they don't turn out right...remelt and try again...
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Originally Posted by weatherman View Post
getting the lead safely out of a battery isn't a simple proposition; that was one of my messiest failures. I've been pouring bullets, jigs, spoons, and sinkers for many, many years. A few safety precautions have saved my eyes and prevented burns...
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50% or more of tire weights are not lead anymore and the ratio will get less. They are going to an alloy that was mandated by the government a year or so ago that can't be melted at the temps for lead.

Tire weights are dirty and you really should do EXTEME research before you attempt to melt and pour lead ESPECIALLY quantities needed for DD weights. Not many people have poured more lead than me in the last two years and I take ALL of the safety precautions and still get hurt now and then.

One drop of water in lead, INCLUDING SWEAT, will end your day and probably a few weeks real quick!!! If you think you will save a few bucks on your weights it probably won't unless you are a commercial fisherman.

Bottom line is read ALL you can and take ALL safety precautions. Most people don't even do that before taking their boat on the water let alone pouring a dangerous metal like lead.
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you really should do EXTEME research before you attempt to melt and pour lead ESPECIALLY quantities needed for DD weights. Not many people have poured more lead than me in the last two years and I take ALL of the safety precautions and still get hurt now and then.

One drop of water in lead, INCLUDING SWEAT, will end your day and probably a few weeks real quick!!! If you think you will save a few bucks on your weights it probably won't unless you are a commercial fisherman.

Bottom line is read ALL you can and take ALL safety precautions. Most people don't even do that before taking their boat on the water let alone pouring a dangerous metal like lead.
My point exactly! My "joke" about "saving face" was not really a joke. You do NOT want to get splattered with lead. I got one burn on my arm about the size of a penny - and it hurt! I was wearing long welders gloves, but it hit me above the glove.

Oh yeah - and I saw a YouTube video from a couple of guys (in the UK, I think). They were demonstrating how to pour lead weights and then they were cooling the lead in a bucket of water. BAD IDEA!!! No water or other liquids should be anywhere near your pot when you are melting lead.

Note that I pour lead jigs, not lead weights. So I am not telling you all this so that you will but weights from me - I don't sell them. I am telling you this in the hope that it saves someone from really getting hurt.


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Take a min to watch and see how bad things can be
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The reality is that most people think they will save a few bucks my making their own are in la la land. By the time you spend money on scrap lead, molds, pots, burners, ladles, and safety gear you will spend much more than buying them at your local shop unless you fish 30 days a year or more.

Most people will not do the homework to find all the safety precautions involved. Long sleeve shirts and pants, FULL face shields, and lead abatement respirator are the MINIMUM before you should attempt lead pouring.

FULL ventilation is a must. Pouring outdoors I DO NOT recommend because even though it looks like it is clear ONE drop of rain will end your day real quick as would a piece of bird crap in your pot. IF you are considering DD weights then you have to go FAR beyond that safety advice.

Those little short cast iron pots are WORTHLESS. You have to go with DEEP turkey fryer pots to hold the quantity of lead and it is much safer if you have a lead exploision since the pot is higher.
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