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Old 09-08-2011, 06:16 AM
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I know this topic has been discussed before but I have been thinking about the service I subscribe to and my frustration with what I feel is the poor information available. I understand cloud cover and every shot can't be perfect but feel others have access to better data than I do. Is the grass always greener or am I correct? My Gulf Stream runs are about sixty miles each way and with fuel prices what they are , I am thinking the best data available would be cheap money to spend to have the best shot at fishing the right area that day.I also just realized because of time zone between me and my service provider the latest available information for me is a day old when he post it and the next analysis is at 1:00Pm East Coast time and by then I am half way through my days fishing. Who feels they have a service that is user friendly and works well for them in the East Coast Mid Atlantic area.
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Originally Posted by SEA HORSE View Post
I know this topic has been discussed before but I have been thinking about the service I subscribe to and my frustration with what I feel is the poor information available. I understand cloud cover and every shot can't be perfect but feel others have access to better data than I do. Is the grass always greener or am I correct? My Gulf Stream runs are about sixty miles each way and with fuel prices what they are , I am thinking the best data available would be cheap money to spend to have the best shot at fishing the right area that day.I also just realized because of time zone between me and my service provider the latest available information for me is a day old when he post it and the next analysis is at 1:00Pm East Coast time and by then I am half way through my days fishing. Who feels they have a service that is user friendly and works well for them in the East Coast Mid Atlantic area.
The most data available with .6 pixel resolution(highest available to the public)
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Old 09-08-2011, 08:18 AM
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i use the rutgers SST site, its free, updates often.
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Old 09-08-2011, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Salt Dream View Post
i use the rutgers SST site, its free, updates often.
What he said. ^^^
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Old 09-08-2011, 12:07 PM
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Terrafin . I like it $99.00 a year .
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Old 09-08-2011, 08:15 PM
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Who cares about "pixels"? You looking at this on a HD 65 inch TV? I need the ease of overlay with the temp/altimetry/color etc etc. There is only one choice......RipCharts!
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Originally Posted by mrtimfl View Post
Who cares about "pixels"? You looking at this on a HD 65 inch TV? I need the ease of overlay with the temp/altimetry/color etc etc. There is only one choice......RipCharts!
When your trying to determine how to precisely define a situation. The more descriptions you can use as well as the smaller area you can define it in, the more precise you can determine a course of action to take.
If your only able to determine on a map an area defined at a greater pixel dimension you cannot be as precise.
You'd be better to join a network of guys that are in the same boat as you but if 115 of you go out in different directions your bound to run into something. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Plus you get to share your hard work with your whole network of buddies. Works great when it's productive but not so much when it's slow.
If what you say is how you operate why use an 8" screen when a 3" would be fine
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Old 09-12-2011, 02:20 AM
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We go to the Rutgers SST images to just look at what the ocean temps look like but when we need good charts for long distance charters and tournaments we use Roffers temp chart service. I know Mitch from when I had my fishing bussiness in Fl and have found thenm to be very honest about their charts when cloud cover is an issue. We have also found his charts put us on fish more times then not quite offten in areas that no one else is even fishing in.
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:25 AM
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Years ago there was only one choice- ROFFS. As more online and free services came along I tried them all.
Life has come full circle as I am again a subscriber to ROFFS. He seems to have the best system for compiling data and I like the fact I can call during the day to get updates.

Over the upcoming winter I plan on getting a new plotter that is SST compatible. As you said, with the price of fuel, I don't want to keep "chasing" water that moved 10 miles overnight.
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As you said, with the price of fuel, I don't want to keep "chasing" water that moved 10 miles overnight.
Here's a couple of sea temp shots - the first is from last night at 9:12 PM eastern time and the second is from this morning at 4:11 AM eastern time - almost exactly 7 hours differential.

I used the Trip Planner to lock in the position of the temp break off of the Carteret/Tom's Canyon area from last night and compared that position to the latest shot available, as you would just prior to leaving the dock. You can see that in the 7 hours that have transpired between the 2 shots, the break has moved offshore almost 5 nautical miles and nudged a little north.

The distance/bearing shown on the Nav Tool is reading from Little Egg Inlet.

This gives you the info you need to be able to accurately intercept the break later this morning.

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Old 09-13-2011, 06:06 PM
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Check out http://fryingpantower.com/North_Caro...ST_Charts.html goto Bluewater Supermap and check it out. It has free sst on there. There is all so a paid SST on there too called Seaview. It offers SST color ramp, Chlorophyll, Sea Surface Height Anomaly- Altimetry, Salinty, Mixed Layer Depth, Currents and much much more.... Ask the admin of the site to give you a free 2 weeks trial. He will. If you want to learn how to use the the sst info on there that is free here is a link on how to use Bluewater Super map: http://www.southcarolina-offshore.com/forum-21.html If you want to learn more about how to use Seaview here is a link to that: http://www.southcarolina-offshore.com/forum-22.html.. Yes the link are back to SouthCarolina-Offshore.com but all the info is the same for all the Offshore.com sites for Bluewater Supermap and Seaview. Be gald to help you in any way i can about sst from these sites.

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Yes, there have been a lot money won using SST. But there is more to it than SST. There are Plankton Density "Chlorophyll" , Sea Surface Height Anomaly, Offshore Currents with Speed and Direction, Salinty, My Personal Favorite Mixed Layer Depth...... Now put all this info on a overlay and its points the way to the fish.... I for sure have won money using all this info. From King Mackerel to Wahoo.

Here is one for you: Look for “Change”



Temp + Structure + Food = Fish
(SST + Bottom + Chlorophyll = Fish)



Find the Right Temp for the selected Species
Look for the “Change” in Temp
Fish will Congregate along that wall of Change
Find Structure along that Wall of Change
Find Chlorophyll Blooms
Look for Convergence Zones
Combine the areas of Temp and Convergence Zone and Structure…That is where you will find fish.



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Old 09-13-2011, 06:11 PM
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Here is what overlaying looks like. This info is from the Summer.

Illustrated How To: Use Supermap & SeaView to Find Fish
Hunting Fish inside Bluewater Supermap...
Temp breaks are very important....in the spring and fall when warm water is here and cold water is there. This time of year it is ALL warm. If you look at any SST shot it will look "Muddeled". Unless they "Dumb" it down to say 1 degree breaks. (We do not do this...we give you the temp...Kind of like a color scope vs a b/w with fish symbols)
SST's can very good this time of year showing you the movement of the water. IT is this movement during the warm months that you pay attention to.
Here is what I do....
I pull up an SST....Find the Correct Temp Range...
This is the Modis Shot from Aug 31st 2:24 am ->Color Ramp->All (I clicked on the image)
You can see where the hot water is pushing over the break...

Now I flip over to Chlorophyll....
The Modis Clor shot suxed so I used teh SeaView Shot...
IF though the shot kind of suxs you can that there is Blue Water to the North and Green Water Inshore. This matches what we are seeing in the SST Image....

Now I flip over to SSH "Sea Surface Height Anomaly- Altimetry " in SeaView
You can see HIGH water to the North and Offshore and LOW water South and Inshore. Once angain we see the same pattern right along the break where the even water is.

Now SeaView Salinty...
You see the SAME Feature....

and Last But Not Least....My Personal Favorite
SeaView Mixed Layer Depth...
This one is Zoomed in the Area in Question....

This shows two Troughs of LOW MLD being pushed tot he North.
What we want to do is fish right inbetween the area of HIGH Thermocline and LOW thermocline. It is this area that is the "Converance Zone" as discussed in Fish Finding from Space, The Hand Book.
http://map.fishthecarolinacoast.com/...ort_Secure.pdf


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Just to eliminate any confusion that some of the posts above may have caused... RipCharts provides the highest resolution imagery available. The resolution is sometimes matched, but never exceeded. Also, just because the resolution is the same, does not mean the imagery is processed correctly. We commonly find multiple data set errors out in the marketplace.

You asked about sea temps, for Sea temps alone each day we custom process multiple granules (individual scans), a daily composite, a 3-day composite, and also a multi resolution cloud free dataset. If you have clear skies, we recommend you leverage a recent granule, but when clouds are problematic, daily summaries, 3 day summaries and multi resolution imagery come in handy.

Plus, we offer chlorophyll, true color, altimetry, currents, custom topography maps, waypoint manager, fishing report capabilities, overlays, accurate tools, mobile friendly maps.. ect. I would be happy to give you an over the phone tutorial if you would like to see how RipCharts can work for you.


Oh, and we are a THT sponsor and advertiser.


For reference here is a sst granule for today in your area. Note the click temp readout on the top right of the map. Each time you click you get an exact readout. We also offer a graph for reference, however click temp is much easier to get an exact reading.




Here is the most recent multi resolution (cloud free) image, with bathymetry, altimetry and currents overlayed.


Here is a Chlorophyll image, showing where the blue water is:



Also, not sure if you bottom fish, or like to fish for pelagics over structure, but we have a pretty amazing bathymetry map. Here is the same area as show above, one can of course zoom in quite a bit for increased detail.



Hopefully, we get the opportunity to earn your business, you will not be disappointed in what we offer.

Thank you for your time,
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Old 09-14-2011, 06:16 PM
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Howdy,
There are some mis-statements above that are simply not correct.

If interested, give me a call and I will personally show you why.

All the best,

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