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Old 05-19-2011, 11:06 PM   #1
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Default Spooling a Penn Senator 3/0

Hey all,

Just got my first non-level wind rod and reel. I've looked for videos on Google to try and see how to load it up with line. I know you need a mono backing if you are using braid, which I plan on doing, but how do you get the line on there evenly?

Do you just guide it by hand from side to side? Also, when you are fishing, do you have to do the same thing as you reel it in? Thanks in advance.
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Hey all,

Just got my first non-level wind rod and reel. I've looked for videos on Google to try and see how to load it up with line. I know you need a mono backing if you are using braid, which I plan on doing, but how do you get the line on there evenly?

Do you just guide it by hand from side to side? Also, when you are fishing, do you have to do the same thing as you reel it in? Thanks in advance.
Yup.. and Yup! .Surely back with mono.. if you are going to do it by hand, wear gloves.. it is critical the braid goes on tight, or else the line will bury itself in the spool under a heavy load with disastrous results.. you may want to consider bringing it into a local tackle shop and let them spool it under proper tension with a machine.. one other consideration on older Penn Senators (not sure on newer ones) is that the tolereances are not so tight as reels designed in the braid era.. .. so it is common for thin braids to get into the gap between the spool/frame and get wound up.. which requires dismantling the reel to clear.. so maybe consider a little thicker braid, don't fill too close to the rim, and keep the spool bearing as tight as feasible.. good luck
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Old 05-20-2011, 07:48 PM   #3
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X2 on getting a shop to load it for your first time. If not just have someone hold the spool hard as possible and crank it on. Also you have to thumb it when you are reeling it in. Just go side to side no sience to it just keep it as even as possible. If you just reel it will fill up in one spot and can jam on the cadge of the reel. Not good if you have a fish on. Becarfull not to cut open your thumb when doing this
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Groovy. Thanks y'all. The local Bass Pro will spool it up for free when I buy their line so I think I am going to take them up on it and watch closely. They have a handy dandy machine that does it for them.
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Frankly, why are you using braid on a Senator 112? The drags on that reel will only generate a max of 10lbs, so spooling it with 50 or 65lbs braid is a waste. Spool with either 20/25/or a max of 30lbs mono and you're all set.

If you need a thinner line to cut through the water or more line capacity, go with dacron, it's cheaper and will do the same thing.

Braided line is not the answer for everything.

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Thank PB. That really makes a great deal of sense! Primarily I was looking for capacity for trolling for kings and your advice hits it on the mark. Thanks!
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I like braid as backing with a topshot of 200-300 yards of mono for more line capacity on my trolling reels. For kings and a 3/0 Senator, I agree with Prop Blast on the 25lb mono. I have 30 lb mono on my 3/0 Senator, but we use it for light bottom fishing as well as a light line for kings, cero, cobia etc..
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Just spooled one of the Senator 3/0's with about 400 yards of 20lb mono. I had to unwind it a couple times and respool it but I think I got it on there just fine. Wound up using a cotton yard glove so I wouldn't burn a strip of flesh out of my hand....

I had a spool of 20lb Ande I bought a couple months ago to spool up a buddy's spinning reel for cobia fishing. There was about 400 yards or so left so took Prop's advice and spooled it on there. Worst case - lose a fish or two and strip it off and get something better. For now, it didn't cost me anything out of pocket. I think I may get some dacron or a roll of that cheaper costing Dyneema from Amazon and give it a shot. For $15 you can't go wrong, right?

At the end of the day, the reels will be spooled up and ready for some fishing Memorial Day weekend and in the bigger picture, that's seems like a winner to me!!
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Just spooled one of the Senator 3/0's with about 400 yards of 20lb mono. I had to unwind it a couple times and respool it but I think I got it on there just fine. Wound up using a cotton yard glove so I wouldn't burn a strip of flesh out of my hand....

I had a spool of 20lb Ande I bought a couple months ago to spool up a buddy's spinning reel for cobia fishing. There was about 400 yards or so left so took Prop's advice and spooled it on there. Worst case - lose a fish or two and strip it off and get something better. For now, it didn't cost me anything out of pocket. I think I may get some dacron or a roll of that cheaper costing Dyneema from Amazon and give it a shot. For $15 you can't go wrong, right?

At the end of the day, the reels will be spooled up and ready for some fishing Memorial Day weekend and in the bigger picture, that's seems like a winner to me!!
You did good

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Thanks Prop! Sometimes you just need a little dose of reality and someone to 'blast' some common sense your way!
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