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tuna777 03-02-2011 04:26 AM

alternative to lead
 
any thoughts on this:o

airbrush 03-02-2011 04:32 AM

Yea, I've been thinking about it a lot lately.:sleeping:

Miss Trial 03-02-2011 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by airbrush (Post 3572394)
Yea, I've been thinking about it a lot lately.:sleeping:

Don't mind that fellow.

I use antique window sash weights. They work quite well if you need something heavy, which I assume you do if you are looking for an alternative.

A_Salt_Weapon 03-02-2011 07:14 AM

I never tried it but did see it on a video on youtube somewhere.

Deepdropping with cans filled with concrete? I though it was odd but I guess it would work.

xyzzy 03-02-2011 07:16 AM

Gold is denser than lead, you could use that!

Dulcecita Lures 03-02-2011 07:45 AM

Fishing in Mexico so often, I see LOTS of alternatives to lead. Everything from old spark plugs to rocks! The locals don't have money to waste on weights.

Commercially? I haven't seen much out there, other than some smaller brass weights. Fine for bass fishing at the local lake, but haven't seen anything but lead in the larger (12 oz. plus) torpedo weights for bottom fishing in the ocean.

Miss Trial 03-02-2011 09:06 AM

the guy with the camp next to me fills cans with quickcrete and two liter bottles with quickcrete for deep dropping. that's VERY inexpensive.

Generalfisheries 03-02-2011 09:26 AM

Started making my own cocrete weights for daytime swordfishing a couple weeks ago. Used them for the first time last weekend and they worked great. got a 150 pounder. The weights seemed to get down to the bottom really easily, and the concrete seemed to hold down deep better than some things that I've tried like brick. The weights that I have been making have a 17" height and a 4" diameter. That comes out to about 15.5lbs which is the weight I need. I was able to get a pretty accurate estimation of what dimentions to use for the weights using the average density on concrete. I just use a PVC mold for the weights. Since PVC is less dense than concrete it makes sense to reuse the molds and not leave them on the weight so as to get the most dense weight possible. Copper wire works well for the eye of the weight. Sorry the picture is not the best but hope it helps. Pretty darn cheep to make after you get it down
http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/a...er35/photo.jpg

auguste 03-02-2011 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by madanglerfla@comcast.net (Post 3573130)
Started making my own cocrete weights for daytime swordfishing a couple weeks ago. Used them for the first time last weekend and they worked great. got a 150 pounder. The weights seemed to get down to the bottom really easily, and the concrete seemed to hold down deep better than some things that I've tried like brick. The weights that I have been making have a 17" height and a 4" diameter. That comes out to about 15.5lbs which is the weight I need. I was able to get a pretty accurate estimation of what dimentions to use for the weights using the average density on concrete. I just use a PVC mold for the weights. Since PVC is less dense than concrete it makes sense to reuse the molds and not leave them on the weight so as to get the most dense weight possible. Copper wire works well for the eye of the weight. Sorry the picture is not the best but hope it helps. Pretty darn cheep to make after you get it down
http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/a...er35/photo.jpg

Do you oil the molds before pouring the concrete?

Generalfisheries 03-02-2011 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by auguste (Post 3573142)
Do you oil the molds before pouring the concrete?

No, The weights come out just fine with out any oil. I have the PVC cut linearly and held to gether with hose clamps. Once the concrete is set I just remove the clamps, and the two halves of the PVC pull apart very easily.

auguste 03-02-2011 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by madanglerfla@comcast.net (Post 3573150)
No, The weights come out just fine with out any oil. I have the PVC cut linearly and held to gether with hose clamps. Once the concrete is set I just remove the clamps, and the two halves of the PVC pull apart very easily.

Thanks for the response :)

joemat 03-02-2011 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by madanglerfla@comcast.net (Post 3573130)
Started making my own cocrete weights for daytime swordfishing a couple weeks ago. Used them for the first time last weekend and they worked great. got a 150 pounder. The weights seemed to get down to the bottom really easily, and the concrete seemed to hold down deep better than some things that I've tried like brick. The weights that I have been making have a 17" height and a 4" diameter. That comes out to about 15.5lbs which is the weight I need. I was able to get a pretty accurate estimation of what dimentions to use for the weights using the average density on concrete. I just use a PVC mold for the weights. Since PVC is less dense than concrete it makes sense to reuse the molds and not leave them on the weight so as to get the most dense weight possible. Copper wire works well for the eye of the weight. Sorry the picture is not the best but hope it helps. Pretty darn cheep to make after you get it down
http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/a...er35/photo.jpg

Boy that looks a lot heavier than 15 lbs. How many can you manage to bring on a trip?

Must get the bait to the bottom in a hurry! Talk about cement shoes!!

Generalfisheries 03-02-2011 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by joemat (Post 3573611)
Boy that looks a lot heavier than 15 lbs. How many can you manage to bring on a trip?

Must get the bait to the bottom in a hurry! Talk about cement shoes!!

Yep it's 15.5lbs. That's what it takes to stay near the bottom in 1500 to 2000 feet. We usually bring 5 or 10. It really sucks to run out of weights and have to come in


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